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Repeater alive!

Robin Amundson
 

Huge thank you to _______???  Shawn? for getting the repeater back. I heard it suddenly come alive today. 

73,
Robin, WA7CPA


January 21 mini exercise

Tom WA7TBP
 

Hello all:

For this Thursday's mini exercise, we are going to pass data using a message form. I will attach a copy for you to use, (img047). We will be concentrating on the data to complete the form, not the handling information. This is a continuation of a drill we did some months ago. I will complete a sample so you may see what the completed form looks like, (img048).
 
Listed below are the data points we will be looking for:
 
    1. Your six digit grid square. For example mine is CN97AP.
    2. Brand of the transmitter you are using. eg. Kenwood, Icom, Alinco, etc
    3. Power of your transmitter
    4. Brand of your antenna, eg, Diamond, Comet, homemade, etc
 
Additional instructions will be provided by me when we begin the exercise. We will do a minimum of 5 messages. We will do more if time and interest permits.
 
I appreciate all of you who participate in theses mini exercises. It is my hope that doing these mini exercises will help build skills for contesting, public service and actual emergency events. As always, if any of you have ideas for exercises, please pass them along to me. Issaquah Ham Club, feel free to inform any other members of your club you think may be interested in participating.
 
73,
 
Tom, WA7TBP
 


Sea-Pac Info

Rowland
 

Here is info on Sea-Pac the ham convention that usually takes place every year in Seaside Oregon. But as we all know many of these events have and will be cancelled for the foreseeable future until the pandemic goes away.

This is an attached file.


Thanks,

Rowland


100 ft. of RG8x?

Ken Koch WA7KK
 

Does anyone have about 100 ft. of spare RG8x sitting around doing nothing?  The drop line from my antenna broke during the wind storm and I need to replace it.  If you have it and don't need it I'll buy it off you.

I can buy it online, but I know that some of you buy in bulk.


Re: Club repeater still down?

Rowland
 

Yes.  Evidently there was a serious leak in the diesel fuel transfer line to the generator.  Do not know the timeline for repair.


Thanks,

Rowland



On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:36 AM Mike Jacob <golferguy02@...> wrote:
Is the club main repeater still without power? 

-Mike
W7GR


Club repeater still down?

Mike Jacob
 

Is the club main repeater still without power? 

-Mike
W7GR


Re: VHF January contest fun today, link: NAQP SSB link--Frequencies for Techs and Gens

Robin Amundson
 

No. Personally I abhor the idea of ft8 as a contest mode. LOL.


On Sat, Jan 16, 2021, 10:40 AM Paul Zoba <pezoba@...> wrote:
Do you think there will be any FT8 on 2m?  That might be a project to set up.


On Jan 16, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:


Re: VHF January contest fun today, link: NAQP SSB link--Frequencies for Techs and Gens

Paul Zoba
 

Do you think there will be any FT8 on 2m?  That might be a project to set up.


On Jan 16, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:


VHF January contest fun today, link: NAQP SSB link--Frequencies for Techs and Gens

Robin Amundson
 


Re: Is repeater down?

Rowland
 

Yes.....gen problems up there.


Thanks,

Rowland



On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:06 PM Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:
I hadn't been listening all day. Just set up for 7 p.m. Rookie Roundtable and not even crickets...

73,
Robin, WA7CPA


Re: Is repeater down?

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

Yes- power out- we moved to the carnation band

Excuse my typos - sent via my thumbs or by voice from a mobile device

On Jan 14, 2021, at 7:08 PM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:

I hadn't been listening all day. Just set up for 7 p.m. Rookie Roundtable and not even crickets...

73,
Robin, WA7CPA

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Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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Is repeater down?

Robin Amundson
 

I hadn't been listening all day. Just set up for 7 p.m. Rookie Roundtable and not even crickets...

73,
Robin, WA7CPA


Re: gutter antenna

Ken Kosters
 

Hi all,

One question would be if any decent high evergreen trees are on the QTH? It's not hard to get a wire vertical along the side of the tree, otherwise I have seen NIVS antennas along wooden fences. 
Otherwise tune the mattress springs and see what might happen? Agree with Dan as anything can be tuned to match the radio but....

Ken W7ECK 

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 4:35 PM Dan Pflugrath <dpflugrath@...> wrote:

The three best STEALTH alternatives for HOA antennas are;

 

#1 use your attic.  A dipole, a trapped dipole, a fan dipole,  a long wire with a 9:1 transformer with a tuner or a resonate End Fed Half Wave with a 49:1 transformer in your attic will be better than something that puts the wire against a structure. 

 

#2 If at all possible stretch a long wire or resonant half wave wire to a tree, another structure or pole, something away from your structure will be better than #1.  I use 66 feet of 26 gage wire with a 49:1 transformer ,EFHW, which is very difficult to see.

 

#3 If you have at least a small yard most HOA's allow flag poles.  The 4BTV Hustler vertical can be encased in 1 1/2 inch thin walled PVC pipe to make a flag pole and have shown to be successful.  The Hustler vertical has been designed so that it can work reasonably well without ground radials.  The ground is the mounting pole that is driven into the ground to support the antenna/flag pole.  For the purest reading this yes it will work much better with a ground radial system.  If someone wants to try my 5BTV vertical and you are just getting into for HF it is yours for free.  Mine is in excellent condition and you can buy it for $75.  See the DX Engineering catalog.

 

#4 If you are stuck in an apartment and cannot throw some wire out the window the Magnetic Loop is probably you last option.  They have a very high Q which means they have a very narrow bandwidth and you must retune for any movement in frequency but I understand they work good for digital and OK for CW and SSB.

 

Let me know what option may work for you.  Note that alternatives 1-3 can be purchased or DIY to run a full kilowatt of transmitter power.

 

73 Dan KA7GPP

 

 

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io [mailto:snovarc@snovarc.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rowland
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 2:35 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] gutter antenna

 

No argument here on the gutter.  You do what you have to to get out.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 

 

 

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:46 PM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) via groups.io <w7pfb=butzi.net@groups.io> wrote:

The gutter antenna does not have to outperform a 5 element yagi at 200 feet.  It just has to outperform no antenna at all to be an interesting antenna to folks who are looking at how to get an antenna past HOA restrictions..

 

So I’m curious, Rowland.  What antenna do you recommend in the situation where HOA restrictions prevent stringing up a ‘better’ antenna?

 

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



On Jan 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Rowland <rowland.brasch@...> wrote:

 

It's like Lynn has said in the past you can tune just about anything to show the radio a 50 ohm load but the performance and output will suffer in the long run.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 

 

 

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:37 AM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) via groups.io <w7pfb=butzi.net@groups.io> wrote:

Recently I speculated (while discussing antenna possibilities with Ryan KI7GIE and Howard WA1HEM) that a remote tuner would make short work of turning a metal gutter system into a usable/useful antenna.  The motivation was to get a usable HF antenna in the face of HOA restrictions.

 

Interesting thread on success at doing this on Reddit:

 

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

 

 

 

 



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Re: gutter antenna

Dan Pflugrath
 

The three best STEALTH alternatives for HOA antennas are;

 

#1 use your attic.  A dipole, a trapped dipole, a fan dipole,  a long wire with a 9:1 transformer with a tuner or a resonate End Fed Half Wave with a 49:1 transformer in your attic will be better than something that puts the wire against a structure. 

 

#2 If at all possible stretch a long wire or resonant half wave wire to a tree, another structure or pole, something away from your structure will be better than #1.  I use 66 feet of 26 gage wire with a 49:1 transformer ,EFHW, which is very difficult to see.

 

#3 If you have at least a small yard most HOA's allow flag poles.  The 4BTV Hustler vertical can be encased in 1 1/2 inch thin walled PVC pipe to make a flag pole and have shown to be successful.  The Hustler vertical has been designed so that it can work reasonably well without ground radials.  The ground is the mounting pole that is driven into the ground to support the antenna/flag pole.  For the purest reading this yes it will work much better with a ground radial system.  If someone wants to try my 5BTV vertical and you are just getting into for HF it is yours for free.  Mine is in excellent condition and you can buy it for $75.  See the DX Engineering catalog.

 

#4 If you are stuck in an apartment and cannot throw some wire out the window the Magnetic Loop is probably you last option.  They have a very high Q which means they have a very narrow bandwidth and you must retune for any movement in frequency but I understand they work good for digital and OK for CW and SSB.

 

Let me know what option may work for you.  Note that alternatives 1-3 can be purchased or DIY to run a full kilowatt of transmitter power.

 

73 Dan KA7GPP

 

 

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io [mailto:snovarc@snovarc.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rowland
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 2:35 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] gutter antenna

 

No argument here on the gutter.  You do what you have to to get out.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 

 

 

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:46 PM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) via groups.io <w7pfb=butzi.net@groups.io> wrote:

The gutter antenna does not have to outperform a 5 element yagi at 200 feet.  It just has to outperform no antenna at all to be an interesting antenna to folks who are looking at how to get an antenna past HOA restrictions..

 

So I’m curious, Rowland.  What antenna do you recommend in the situation where HOA restrictions prevent stringing up a ‘better’ antenna?

 

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



On Jan 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Rowland <rowland.brasch@...> wrote:

 

It's like Lynn has said in the past you can tune just about anything to show the radio a 50 ohm load but the performance and output will suffer in the long run.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 

 

 

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:37 AM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) via groups.io <w7pfb=butzi.net@groups.io> wrote:

Recently I speculated (while discussing antenna possibilities with Ryan KI7GIE and Howard WA1HEM) that a remote tuner would make short work of turning a metal gutter system into a usable/useful antenna.  The motivation was to get a usable HF antenna in the face of HOA restrictions.

 

Interesting thread on success at doing this on Reddit:

 

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

 

 

 

 



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Re: gutter antenna

Rowland
 

No argument here on the gutter.  You do what you have to to get out.


Thanks,

Rowland



On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:46 PM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) via groups.io <w7pfb=butzi.net@groups.io> wrote:
The gutter antenna does not have to outperform a 5 element yagi at 200 feet.  It just has to outperform no antenna at all to be an interesting antenna to folks who are looking at how to get an antenna past HOA restrictions..

So I’m curious, Rowland.  What antenna do you recommend in the situation where HOA restrictions prevent stringing up a ‘better’ antenna?

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Jan 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Rowland <rowland.brasch@...> wrote:

It's like Lynn has said in the past you can tune just about anything to show the radio a 50 ohm load but the performance and output will suffer in the long run.


Thanks,

Rowland



On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:37 AM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) via groups.io <w7pfb=butzi.net@groups.io> wrote:
Recently I speculated (while discussing antenna possibilities with Ryan KI7GIE and Howard WA1HEM) that a remote tuner would make short work of turning a metal gutter system into a usable/useful antenna.  The motivation was to get a usable HF antenna in the face of HOA restrictions.

Interesting thread on success at doing this on Reddit:

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!





Re: gutter antenna

Robin Amundson
 

How about a mag loop?


On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:46 PM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) via groups.io <w7pfb=butzi.net@groups.io> wrote:
The gutter antenna does not have to outperform a 5 element yagi at 200 feet.  It just has to outperform no antenna at all to be an interesting antenna to folks who are looking at how to get an antenna past HOA restrictions..

So I’m curious, Rowland.  What antenna do you recommend in the situation where HOA restrictions prevent stringing up a ‘better’ antenna?

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Jan 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Rowland <rowland.brasch@...> wrote:

It's like Lynn has said in the past you can tune just about anything to show the radio a 50 ohm load but the performance and output will suffer in the long run.


Thanks,

Rowland



On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:37 AM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) via groups.io <w7pfb=butzi.net@groups.io> wrote:
Recently I speculated (while discussing antenna possibilities with Ryan KI7GIE and Howard WA1HEM) that a remote tuner would make short work of turning a metal gutter system into a usable/useful antenna.  The motivation was to get a usable HF antenna in the face of HOA restrictions.

Interesting thread on success at doing this on Reddit:

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!





Re: Next Fldigi Class

Robin Amundson
 

.IC 7300


On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:56 PM Rowland <rowland.brasch@...> wrote:
We had an Fldigi class last week that was centered on the ICOM 7300.  It was a great class and Ryan and Paul were excellent Elmers. 

Would like to schedule another one for February if there is interest.  The question is what other radio system would people like to use for this class.

Please get back to me soon with your choices.  Each of these classes is limited to 4-5 participants or it gets a little unmanageable in the short period of time allotted for them.


Thanks,

Rowland


Re: gutter antenna

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

The gutter antenna does not have to outperform a 5 element yagi at 200 feet.  It just has to outperform no antenna at all to be an interesting antenna to folks who are looking at how to get an antenna past HOA restrictions..

So I’m curious, Rowland.  What antenna do you recommend in the situation where HOA restrictions prevent stringing up a ‘better’ antenna?

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Jan 13, 2021, at 12:50 PM, Rowland <rowland.brasch@...> wrote:

It's like Lynn has said in the past you can tune just about anything to show the radio a 50 ohm load but the performance and output will suffer in the long run.


Thanks,

Rowland



On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:37 AM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) via groups.io <w7pfb=butzi.net@groups.io> wrote:
Recently I speculated (while discussing antenna possibilities with Ryan KI7GIE and Howard WA1HEM) that a remote tuner would make short work of turning a metal gutter system into a usable/useful antenna.  The motivation was to get a usable HF antenna in the face of HOA restrictions.

Interesting thread on success at doing this on Reddit:

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!





Next Fldigi Class

Rowland
 

We had an Fldigi class last week that was centered on the ICOM 7300.  It was a great class and Ryan and Paul were excellent Elmers. 

Would like to schedule another one for February if there is interest.  The question is what other radio system would people like to use for this class.

Please get back to me soon with your choices.  Each of these classes is limited to 4-5 participants or it gets a little unmanageable in the short period of time allotted for them.


Thanks,

Rowland


Re: gutter antenna

Rowland
 

It's like Lynn has said in the past you can tune just about anything to show the radio a 50 ohm load but the performance and output will suffer in the long run.


Thanks,

Rowland



On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:37 AM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) via groups.io <w7pfb=butzi.net@groups.io> wrote:
Recently I speculated (while discussing antenna possibilities with Ryan KI7GIE and Howard WA1HEM) that a remote tuner would make short work of turning a metal gutter system into a usable/useful antenna.  The motivation was to get a usable HF antenna in the face of HOA restrictions.

Interesting thread on success at doing this on Reddit:

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

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