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Field Day Class

Robin WA7CPA
 

All,
Last night at the Ball Fields we discussed our options and looked at the rules. Here is what was decided:

1. Our class will be 3A. We will have 3 stations available. 

2. The 7300 will be dedicated to SSB (voice) and we will log all contacts using N1MM. Anyone, licensed, or not, will be able to use the station with an appropriately licensed control operator. It will run 100 watts. It will have priority on the busiest, most open bands during the 24 hours. All visitors and attendees old enough to talk should get a turn. Any and all antennas are welcome to be set up! Comparisons would be awesome.

3. Jim's station will be second station. Jim needs to provide us with more details. I do not know if he will be running it at all times.

4. The 15-watt KX3 will run CW and digital FT-8. All CW operators have priority on this radio. Bring your own headphones for best listening experience. I have a splitter for two to listen. All logging will be on N1MM. I will have CW Macros programmed. If needed, there is a built-in keyer. This is the first year FT-8 has been an available mode at Field Day. No official guidance but an ad hoc group on Facebook has worked out a potentially workable exchange work-around to make completed contacts. Against all more-expert advice not to try it, I am of course going to try it. It is an opportunity for those unfamiliar with FT-8 to (sort of) see what it is about. No one on the planet knows how it will actually work on FD. It is a completely experimental mode for this event. Chaos is inevitable. 

5. Shawn suggested we assign bands to transmitters when we get there and coordinate moves as the event progresses.


Re: Jammer is back this morning

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

As someone who has laid a mike on the car seat and then had something slide against it and hold the PTT in, I can tell you it’s pretty easy to have it happen.  So, a gentle reminder: go look at the manual for all your radios and find the option to set the transmit time-out, and set it to some reasonably short (I like 3 minutes or 5 minutes) time.  It doesn’t eliminate the problem but it does limit how bad it is when it happens.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:42 AM, Ken Kosters <kenkosters@...> wrote:

That was a stuck microphone and sent email to the person. Not a maker just mistake.

Ken 


On Jun 20, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:

Cougar Repeater has illegal xmit caused by a jammer at 6:58 a.m.


Re: Field Day potluck sign-up

 

Grill is fine.

Ken 


On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:28 AM, Mike Jacob <golferguy02@...> wrote:

I hope to make it Saturday for a while.   

I'm setting arena lighting poles on Saturday so if we hit snags I'll miss Field Day.  If not, I plan to be there in the afternoon.  I'll try to bring ice. 

-Mike
W7GR

On Jun 20, 2018 6:31 AM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:
Chuck,
There will be a grill if:
1) Ken says it is okay
2) Somebody brings a grill. 

Tnx and 73

Robin

p.s. Those of us who will be up there the entire time will be very, very grateful for every bag of ice that shows up. Thank you in advance to everyone bringing ice.


Re: Jammer is back this morning

 

That was a stuck microphone and sent email to the person. Not a maker just mistake.

Ken 


On Jun 20, 2018, at 6:59 AM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:

Cougar Repeater has illegal xmit caused by a jammer at 6:58 a.m.


Re: FD and FT8

Robin WA7CPA
 

Rowland,
I will have FT8 on my KX3. It will be an abnormal operation but I may be able to give you enough tips to help move the ball forward for you on the setup menus etc. It is usually either a menu item or a cable issue. I use a SignaLink. What do you use? After FD I will work on setting it up on my new 7300. Perhaps you could give me tips on the 7300 during FD?

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 7:19 AM, Rowland <k7rwb@...> wrote:

I would love to sit down with someone and show me FT8.  I have not had much success with operating it on my 7300.

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 



Re: FD and FT8

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

I would observe that if Rowland (who has 7300 experience and who wants a jumpstart on FT8) sits down with Robin (aka Ms. FT8, who is seeking someone to give her a jumpstart on the 7300), a great deal of information is going to flow very rapidly in both directions.  The technical term for that sort of high volume, high speed information transfer in the amateur radio world is “good”.

Remember: every time you teach someone something you know, the world becomes a better place.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Rowland <k7rwb@...> wrote:

I would love to sit down with someone and show me FT8.  I have not had much success with operating it on my 7300.
 
Thanks,
 
Rowland 
 


Re: Field Day potluck sign-up

Mike Jacob
 

I hope to make it Saturday for a while.   

I'm setting arena lighting poles on Saturday so if we hit snags I'll miss Field Day.  If not, I plan to be there in the afternoon.  I'll try to bring ice. 

-Mike
W7GR

On Jun 20, 2018 6:31 AM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:

Chuck,
There will be a grill if:
1) Ken says it is okay
2) Somebody brings a grill. 

Tnx and 73

Robin

p.s. Those of us who will be up there the entire time will be very, very grateful for every bag of ice that shows up. Thank you in advance to everyone bringing ice.


FD and FT8

Rowland
 

I would love to sit down with someone and show me FT8.  I have not had much success with operating it on my 7300.

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 


Jammer is back this morning

Robin WA7CPA
 

Cougar Repeater has illegal xmit caused by a jammer at 6:58 a.m.


Re: Field Day potluck sign-up

Robin WA7CPA
 

Chuck,
There will be a grill if:
1) Ken says it is okay
2) Somebody brings a grill. 

Tnx and 73

Robin

p.s. Those of us who will be up there the entire time will be very, very grateful for every bag of ice that shows up. Thank you in advance to everyone bringing ice.


Re: Field Day potluck sign-up

Chuck
 

Hi  Robin,

 

Just thinking about what to bring to the potluck, a quick question, Is there going to be a grill?

 

Thanks.

 

Chuck

KE7JWP

 

From: snovarc@groups.io <snovarc@groups.io> On Behalf Of Robin Amundson
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 2:07 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io
Subject: [snovarc] Field Day potluck sign-up

 

Hi All,

Saturday, June 23, will be the club's Field Day potluck at our most-beautiful-view-Field-Day-Site-in-the-entire-country. We like to have all food and beverages for our shared meal on site by 6 p.m. Flying drones is permitted. You will come away with incredible video. Recommend bring your own chairs and portable tables. We will need utensils, plates, napkins, cups, water, tablecloths. Those are a great contribution. Thank you very much for anything you bring up to share. Please respond to this thread so we can see what we can expect and where we need to fill in.

73,
Robin, WA7CPA


Re: Field Day, FT-8, transmitters, etc

Robin WA7CPA
 

Shawn,

It does make sense to me that the S&P answering a CQ should be able to come back with:

K7ATA WA7CPA FD
instead of the grid square.

Anyone want to try more customization? Every one of these we change adds another 15 seconds of nail-biting manual change of message and potential for getting out of sequence and delaying the successful conclusion of a QSO. We have no idea, really, how others are going to send. And consider DX stations clueless about FD. Chaos! (But fun chaos, perhaps, for non-contesters).

73,
Robin, WA7CPA

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:
For FD, why not just send station/section instead of grid square?


--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 6/19/2018 2:17 PM, Robin Amundson wrote:
Hi All,
This morning I wrote to the ARRL Contest Manager regarding creating a custom FD Exchange within the 13 character constraints of each 15 second xmit.  Everyone seems to agree FT-8 is not ready for FD 2018 and it will be chaos. Nonetheless, I do not like giving up. They are allowing it for FD and each contact is worth the same 2 points as CW. I spent several hours testing FT-8 on 40 meters with an FT-8 expert to try to make a custom FT-8 exchange work based on the recommendation provided by the Contest Manager. It is very, very, tricky to move the exchange along to a completed QSO. With practice one should find the rhythm.  While normal FT-8 normally flows smoothly, driving it for this contest requires utmost attention. Here is the exchange using custom macros, which have to be manually inserted twice in each contact:

Running:
CQ FD K7ATA    <This is custom and where we have to do an insertion before XMIT>   K7ATA WA7CPA CN87
WA7CPA K7ATA +3K7ATA WA7CPA +2
WA7CPA K7ATA RRR
3A WWA 73    <This is custom and where we have to do a quick insertion with each QSO>
1A WWA 73








Re: Field Day, FT-8, transmitters, etc

Robin WA7CPA
 

I would be happy to do some FT8 Field Day practice with anyone interested. Create the custom XMIT 5 messages and we can go to a dead band and practice, practice, practice. Tomorrow. Text me or call at 425-877-0645 and we can coordinate.

Robin, WA7CPA

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:44 PM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:
Shawn,

It would be WONDERFUL not to have to send the grid square because it matters not at all in FD. However, it doesn't work. If you have two calls of 6-length right away you run out of room.  Next year they should have this figured out. For now, we have to use the optional custom line we are given in XMIT 5. 

The whole thing is far less than ideal.

Robin, WA7CPA

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:
For FD, why not just send station/section instead of grid square?


--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 6/19/2018 2:17 PM, Robin Amundson wrote:
Hi All,
This morning I wrote to the ARRL Contest Manager regarding creating a custom FD Exchange within the 13 character constraints of each 15 second xmit.  Everyone seems to agree FT-8 is not ready for FD 2018 and it will be chaos. Nonetheless, I do not like giving up. They are allowing it for FD and each contact is worth the same 2 points as CW. I spent several hours testing FT-8 on 40 meters with an FT-8 expert to try to make a custom FT-8 exchange work based on the recommendation provided by the Contest Manager. It is very, very, tricky to move the exchange along to a completed QSO. With practice one should find the rhythm.  While normal FT-8 normally flows smoothly, driving it for this contest requires utmost attention. Here is the exchange using custom macros, which have to be manually inserted twice in each contact:

Running:
CQ FD K7ATA    <This is custom and where we have to do an insertion before XMIT>   K7ATA WA7CPA CN87
WA7CPA K7ATA +3K7ATA WA7CPA +2
WA7CPA K7ATA RRR
3A WWA 73    <This is custom and where we have to do a quick insertion with each QSO>
1A WWA 73









Re: Field Day, FT-8, transmitters, etc

Robin WA7CPA
 

Shawn,

It would be WONDERFUL not to have to send the grid square because it matters not at all in FD. However, it doesn't work. If you have two calls of 6-length right away you run out of room.  Next year they should have this figured out. For now, we have to use the optional custom line we are given in XMIT 5. 

The whole thing is far less than ideal.

Robin, WA7CPA

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:
For FD, why not just send station/section instead of grid square?


--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 6/19/2018 2:17 PM, Robin Amundson wrote:
Hi All,
This morning I wrote to the ARRL Contest Manager regarding creating a custom FD Exchange within the 13 character constraints of each 15 second xmit.  Everyone seems to agree FT-8 is not ready for FD 2018 and it will be chaos. Nonetheless, I do not like giving up. They are allowing it for FD and each contact is worth the same 2 points as CW. I spent several hours testing FT-8 on 40 meters with an FT-8 expert to try to make a custom FT-8 exchange work based on the recommendation provided by the Contest Manager. It is very, very, tricky to move the exchange along to a completed QSO. With practice one should find the rhythm.  While normal FT-8 normally flows smoothly, driving it for this contest requires utmost attention. Here is the exchange using custom macros, which have to be manually inserted twice in each contact:

Running:
CQ FD K7ATA    <This is custom and where we have to do an insertion before XMIT>   K7ATA WA7CPA CN87
WA7CPA K7ATA +3K7ATA WA7CPA +2
WA7CPA K7ATA RRR
3A WWA 73    <This is custom and where we have to do a quick insertion with each QSO>
1A WWA 73








Re: Field Day, FT-8, transmitters, etc

Robin WA7CPA
 

So, there is general pessimism about FT-8 working well this year. That said, I have a proposal:

Most people, especially newer hams, want to get on the air talking with SSB. Instead of having the 7300 with its 100 watts dedicated as a GOTA station, lets make it a regular station for ALL to use and keep it busy ALL the time. Let's put it on 20 meters. We can shut it down at night if no one is around to use it. 

Let's use the KX3 with its 15 watts as a CW station and experimental FT-8 station, as far as FT-8 will work out. The KX3 could operate on 15 meters using the Buddipole. If the 7300 SSB station is going to be idle for some time, we can switch off the 7300 and switch the KX3 over to 20 meters for more QSO's.

At night the 7300 and the KX3 can take turns on 40 meters. We will also have Jim's stations on the higher bands. 

So, we have three transmitters. We could either keep only 2 xmitting at a time and stay in the 2A category, or just make us a 3A station, but I doubt we have enough operators committed to keeping all three running enough to make it worthwhile. We are not trying to be competitive, so I don't think it really matters, either 2A or 3A.  Next, this evening at Big Rock, we are going to discuss our power situation to verify if we have it covered to stay non-commercial. We may have it covered and be a clean 2A or 3A.

Please comment.

Tnx and 73
Robin, WA7CPA



Re: Field Day, FT-8, transmitters, etc

Shawn / K7ATA
 

For FD, why not just send station/section instead of grid square?


--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 6/19/2018 2:17 PM, Robin Amundson wrote:
Hi All,
This morning I wrote to the ARRL Contest Manager regarding creating a custom FD Exchange within the 13 character constraints of each 15 second xmit.  Everyone seems to agree FT-8 is not ready for FD 2018 and it will be chaos. Nonetheless, I do not like giving up. They are allowing it for FD and each contact is worth the same 2 points as CW. I spent several hours testing FT-8 on 40 meters with an FT-8 expert to try to make a custom FT-8 exchange work based on the recommendation provided by the Contest Manager. It is very, very, tricky to move the exchange along to a completed QSO. With practice one should find the rhythm.  While normal FT-8 normally flows smoothly, driving it for this contest requires utmost attention. Here is the exchange using custom macros, which have to be manually inserted twice in each contact:

Running:
CQ FD K7ATA    <This is custom and where we have to do an insertion before XMIT>   K7ATA WA7CPA CN87
WA7CPA K7ATA +3K7ATA WA7CPA +2
WA7CPA K7ATA RRR
3A WWA 73    <This is custom and where we have to do a quick insertion with each QSO>
1A WWA 73


Re: Field Day, FT-8, transmitters, etc

Robin WA7CPA
 

Was not done editing the above. Please disregard. I will edit it here:

Hi All,
This morning I wrote to the ARRL Contest Manager regarding creating a custom FD Exchange within the 13 character constraints of each 15 second xmit.  Everyone seems to agree FT-8 is not ready for FD 2018 and it will be chaos. Nonetheless, I do not like giving up. They are allowing it for FD and each contact is worth the same 2 points as CW. I spent several hours testing FT-8 on 40 meters with an FT-8 expert to try to make a custom FT-8 exchange work based on the recommendation provided by the Contest Manager. It is very, very, tricky to move the exchange along to a completed QSO. With practice one should find the rhythm.  While normal FT-8 normally flows smoothly, driving it for this contest requires utmost attention. Here is the exchange using custom macros, which have to be manually inserted twice in each contact:

Running:
CQ FD K7ATA    <This is custom and where we have to do an insertion before XMIT>   K7ATA WA7CPA CN87
WA7CPA K7ATA +3          K7ATA WA7CPA +2
WA7CPA K7ATA RRR        K7ATA WA7CPA RRR
3A WWA 73    <This is custom and where we have to do a quick insertion with each QSO>            1A WWA 73


Field Day, FT-8, transmitters, etc

Robin WA7CPA
 

Hi All,
This morning I wrote to the ARRL Contest Manager regarding creating a custom FD Exchange within the 13 character constraints of each 15 second xmit.  Everyone seems to agree FT-8 is not ready for FD 2018 and it will be chaos. Nonetheless, I do not like giving up. They are allowing it for FD and each contact is worth the same 2 points as CW. I spent several hours testing FT-8 on 40 meters with an FT-8 expert to try to make a custom FT-8 exchange work based on the recommendation provided by the Contest Manager. It is very, very, tricky to move the exchange along to a completed QSO. With practice one should find the rhythm.  While normal FT-8 normally flows smoothly, driving it for this contest requires utmost attention. Here is the exchange using custom macros, which have to be manually inserted twice in each contact:

Running:
CQ FD K7ATA    <This is custom and where we have to do an insertion before XMIT>   K7ATA WA7CPA CN87
WA7CPA K7ATA +3K7ATA WA7CPA +2
WA7CPA K7ATA RRR
3A WWA 73    <This is custom and where we have to do a quick insertion with each QSO>
1A WWA 73


Re: Field Day Safety and other questions

 

I am cool with that unless someone else want to take command.
Many things on my plate this week with large event and prep for this weekend, being on call and kiddo's getting out for the summer. The universe is plotting against me this year, laughs.

Ken W7ECK


On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Tom WA7TBP via Groups.Io <tomwa7tbp@...> wrote:
Hello all:

Due to family travel plans, I will not be able to spend the night at the field day site. I will be there, but cannot bring my camper this year. I will be there Friday afternoon and evening, all day Saturday, and will help with cleanup on Sunday. I am willing to be the Safety Officer if you are OK with me not being there full time. Be advised, I will take the Safety Officer duties very seriously. By this I mean hard hats, gloves, safety gear (the yard work we talked about for Friday) and the like. If you are OK with that, I will be your safety guy.

Looking forward to spending some fun time with all of you.

Tom

In a message dated 6/18/2018 08:47:13 Pacific Standard Time, wa7cpa@... writes:

Shawn,

Very FB on the grounding hardware and the laptops and networking. And, the pulled pork.

Tnx and 73,
Robin

On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

On 6/17/2018 4:06 PM, Robin Amundson wrote:
1. Does anyone have ground rod we can pound into the dirt and the appropriate type wire? Can someone be responsible for grounding the equipment at our FD site?
I'll be bringing some grounding hardware, and I'm sure other folks will bring some as well

2. Need a battery/power supply for my new IC-7300--unless the group considers it okay to use my Powerwerx power supply that will require commercial power. Who has a battery to lend to the FD effort? It needs DC 13.8V/25A (Capacity at least 21 amps).  I am just trying to set up this rig on my shack desk and figure out how to run it. I have not had time to order a field battery. My 2 Bioennos were acquired for my 15 watt rig and are insufficient for the 7300.

3. Who can bring up a laptop with N1MM software installed for logging at the IC-7300 GOTA station?
I'll be bringing laptops and networking gear for logging.


--Shawn
--K7ATA







Re: Field Day Safety and other questions

andrew@...
 

Hey Robin,

FWIW, I am building a solar power supply with a Tesla battery module.  There are 16 modules in a Model S.  Kinda heavy (at 55 lbs) so it's more of a mobile kind of rig, than something you can put in a backpack.  I wanted something that would make it here in the winter for a while with just clouds for months at a time.  I should have all the pieces needed, I just have to stuff it in a Pelican gun case I got so I can haul it around.  It's somewhat complicated, at least if you don't want a big fire.  I'll try and remember to take some pictures of it going together.

Andrew

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