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Rowland
 

If you want to take part in a neat ham radio experience try the PLAIN100 ultra marathon taking place in Plain Washington on the weekend of September 13th.  We are looking for volunteers to help with net control and to be stationed at check points throughout the 100-mile course to perform runner checkins.  It is an amazing experience to witness these runners as they are challenged by one of the toughest ultra-marathon courses in the country.

 

For more information look at these two sites:

 

https://sites.google.com/site/plain100st/

 

https://sites.google.com/site/plain100st/

 

If you have any unanswered questions please contact me or Tom Needham for more details.  I know that Dan Pflugrath is participating and has a cabin near Lake Wenatchee with a few more sleeping spots which would save you the cost of a hotel room. Tom and I take our RVs there and that is another option for you.

 

All I can say it is a little work with lots of for included.  Hope you may consider it.

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland Brasch

Slick56@...

 

Re: Go Box

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

The radio, head, power supply, speaker all have mounts that can be screwed directly to the shelves.  The pwrgate I will mount with velcro on the shelf and on the pwrgate.  The SLA battery will be held in place with l-brackets to hold it in place horizontally and a velcro strap to go over it to hold it to the shelf.

Let me know what you find at Guitar Center.  There’s a lot of value in being able to look things over, as opposed to order off the web.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 9, 2019, at 10:31 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <howard@...> wrote:

Paul - thanks for the feedback above. The pwrgate looks perfect and isn't really more expensive since John's solution is a kit that you have to assemble, solder, etc. and you're right, John's solution sits on the top of the battery which poses a problem in a rack (thus my question about putting an SLA battery on its side). 

I noticed in your box that some of your items, like the rigs head was screwed to a mount that was attached directly to the rack - how did you mount your other items that don't have a natural way to secure to the rack? Straps? You're innards looks very neat and clean.  I didn't notice. I'm going to run over to Guitar center this weekend to check out if they have any rack cases on hand to look at. I'm also going to explore using a smaller 2u case for just carrying the power supply, Yaesu main unit, head and external speaker, then deal with the backup batteries separately. Don't know. So many permutations!! Thanks again for all the great input!

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Re: Go Box

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

Paul - thanks for the feedback above. The pwrgate looks perfect and isn't really more expensive since John's solution is a kit that you have to assemble, solder, etc. and you're right, John's solution sits on the top of the battery which poses a problem in a rack (thus my question about putting an SLA battery on its side). 

I noticed in your box that some of your items, like the rigs head was screwed to a mount that was attached directly to the rack - how did you mount your other items that don't have a natural way to secure to the rack? Straps? You're innards looks very neat and clean.  I didn't notice. I'm going to run over to Guitar center this weekend to check out if they have any rack cases on hand to look at. I'm also going to explore using a smaller 2u case for just carrying the power supply, Yaesu main unit, head and external speaker, then deal with the backup batteries separately. Don't know. So many permutations!! Thanks again for all the great input!

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(425) 864 - 5104
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Re: Go Box

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 


On Aug 9, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <howard@...> wrote:

Paul - you make some really good points about that case - especially that there might not be that much protection in the front or rear panels and it's definitely is not made to stack. The case you have is awesome, nearly a tank, with the only missing feature being waterproof when closed (although I doubt that is necessary).
None of these cases are waterproof but the SKB case I’ve got actually has a gasket, so when the end caps are on it’s probably rainproof.  I have no plans to submerge it so weather resistant is fine.  The manufacturers web sites will all tell you if a case has a gasket. 

But this one appears to be lighter and more luggable...Tough choices! I like the idea of building the Rack first using an external rack, sans a case, fine tune the setup and then think about which case to use.

One issue is that if you have multiple shelves, any cabling that goes from the top shelf to the bottom may well need to be routed differently if you change rack/case.


Also - here is the link I was talking about yesterday for the "Power Charger Transfer Kit" available from John Boal K9JEB (Redmond) that I was thinking of adding to my Go-Box. I just bought a jpole from him. This is pretty cool because it can be connected full-time to a power supply and will automatically switch to battery power should AC be lost (or you can just run from the battery or keep it off and use on-demand). My next questions is can you put an SLA battery on its side? Fun stuff…

Yes, you can put an SLA battery on its side.  An alternative to the kit from John is:

I have a couple of these and find them really handy.  Slightly more expensive than what John sells but John’s version would be a problem if the battery is on its side.


-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

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Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM (!!! NOTE MY NEW CALLSIGN - replacing KJ7HHS)
(425) 864 - 5104
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Re: Go Box

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

Paul - you make some really good points about that case - especially that there might not be that much protection in the front or rear panels and it's definitely is not made to stack. The case you have is awesome, nearly a tank, with the only missing feature being waterproof when closed (although I doubt that is necessary). But this one appears to be lighter and more luggable...Tough choices! I like the idea of building the Rack first using an external rack, sans a case, fine tune the setup and then think about which case to use.

Also - here is the link I was talking about yesterday for the "Power Charger Transfer Kit" available from John Boal K9JEB (Redmond) that I was thinking of adding to my Go-Box. I just bought a jpole from him. This is pretty cool because it can be connected full-time to a power supply and will automatically switch to battery power should AC be lost (or you can just run from the battery or keep it off and use on-demand). My next questions is can you put an SLA battery on its side? Fun stuff...
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Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM (!!! NOTE MY NEW CALLSIGN - replacing KJ7HHS)
(425) 864 - 5104
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Re: Go Box

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

That’s one of the cases I considered using.  The really good news is that, once you build a box into a rack mount case, you can pretty easily put the entire setup into a different rack mount case just by pulling the shelves and faceplates out and shifting from old to new.

The issues I see are: you can’t fully remove the front and back covers (maybe not an issue but will take up table space), concern about how much protection the front and back get (how much space between the rack and the cover when the cover is closed), and it does not look like it would stack very well.

But I’d be very interested in seeing that case with a go box inside!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 8, 2019, at 9:15 PM, howard@... wrote:

Thanks to Kirt, Paul and Bob for sharing your go-batteries and boxes tonight at the park. Lots of great stuff and cool ideas. What do you guys think of this 4u case? I like the idea of being able to throw it over my shoulder. Comments?

https://www.amazon.com/Gator-Cases-Portable-Rackable-GRB-4U/dp/B0002J6HM4/ref=pd_day0_hl_267_3/137-5733567-2366351?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0002J6HM4&pd_rd_r=964f7add-0dd1-4d82-8394-07ace2602039&pd_rd_w=nuvNS&pd_rd_wg=EIvb5&pf_rd_p=ad07871c-e646-4161-82c7-5ed0d4c85b07&pf_rd_r=AVZ36XJ7CFT3WHP55G4X&psc=1&refRID=AVZ36XJ7CFT3WHP55G4X

Re: Go Box

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

Thanks to Kirt, Paul and Bob for sharing your go-batteries and boxes tonight at the park. Lots of great stuff and cool ideas. What do you guys think of this 4u case? I like the idea of being able to throw it over my shoulder. Comments?

https://www.amazon.com/Gator-Cases-Portable-Rackable-GRB-4U/dp/B0002J6HM4/ref=pd_day0_hl_267_3/137-5733567-2366351?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0002J6HM4&pd_rd_r=964f7add-0dd1-4d82-8394-07ace2602039&pd_rd_w=nuvNS&pd_rd_wg=EIvb5&pf_rd_p=ad07871c-e646-4161-82c7-5ed0d4c85b07&pf_rd_r=AVZ36XJ7CFT3WHP55G4X&psc=1&refRID=AVZ36XJ7CFT3WHP55G4X

Go Box

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

I'd like to start building a Go-Box for EmComm.  Do others have examples/experience?  Maybe bring an example to the park to look at?

Re: DMR Class

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 
Edited

Lou - yep that's why I invested in Wires-X. I evaluated DMR when I was looking at digital but it looked like a spaghetti bowl and overly complex and had limitations (as you describe). Wires-X isn't perfect but it has been pretty much plug-and-play and the setup and its use is very intuitive. The voice clarity is spectacular and the ability to reach folks around the world is a ton of fun.  I started with a mobile unit and am now building a home  Wires-X "node". I'm still interested in learning about DMR to better my understanding of how it might work into my setup.

Howard
KJ7HHS

Re: DMR Class

Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW)
 

DMR is a nightmare compared to wires-x. It even makes d-star look simple. It's not really designed to be used the way hams are using it.

For example, to bring up a talk group (kinda like a reflector) you have to kerchunk the whole group and everyone's radios light up with rx. Worse, to leave a group you have to do the same but you need to wait for no rx. I've been on where people fast key in a QSO and I couldn't get out for 10 minutes, lol.

Everything is based on radio id so if you want to see a call sign or name you need to have them in your contacts which means downloading the master contact list into the radio. That list is 100k plus and climbing.

It's interesting and fun, but some of the ways hams push the envelope should be addressed for ease of use. It works well as a system for one organization, but for general use there are some sore spots.






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On Aug 7, 2019, 2:42 PM, < howard@...> wrote:

Would love to attend a digital class. I've been getting into Wires-X and would love to learn more about DMR and share what I've learned about Wires-X if anyone was interested.

Thanks for setting this up!

Howard
KJ7HHS

Re: DMR Class

Robin Amundson
 

I would enjoy the topic.

73, Robin, WA7CPA

Running Coax

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

Can the group make any recommendations for a fair, trustworthy and knowledgeable local handyperson (or local company) that I can hire to run several lines of coax for me into my home office/new ham shack?

Re: DMR Class

Peter Marchel
 

As a newbie, I am interested.

 

Peter

 

 

From: snovarc@groups.io <snovarc@groups.io> On Behalf Of Kirt / K7KDW
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 2:47 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io
Subject: Re: [snovarc] DMR Class

 

Rowland, I know we've already discussed but count me in for the class.

 


From: snovarc@groups.io <snovarc@groups.io> on behalf of howard@... <howard@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 2:29 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io <snovarc@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [snovarc] DMR Class

 

I've been using Wires-X (Yaesu), and would love to sit in on a digital class. I would also be happy to share my experience with digital via a show and tell.

Thanks for setting this up!

Howard
KJ7HHS

Re: DMR Class

Kirt / K7KDW
 

Rowland, I know we've already discussed but count me in for the class.


From: snovarc@groups.io <snovarc@groups.io> on behalf of howard@... <howard@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 2:29 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io <snovarc@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [snovarc] DMR Class
 
I've been using Wires-X (Yaesu), and would love to sit in on a digital class. I would also be happy to share my experience with digital via a show and tell.

Thanks for setting this up!

Howard
KJ7HHS

Re: DMR Class

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

I've been using Wires-X (Yaesu), and would love to sit in on a digital class. I would also be happy to share my experience with digital via a show and tell.

Thanks for setting this up!

Howard
KJ7HHS

Re: DMR Class

Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW)
 

Whoops that's the old site. Here is the new one.

http://pnwdigital.net/



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On Aug 7, 2019, 2:36 PM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via Groups.Io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:

There is an active DMR group in the area, though, if we want to invite an expert. They even produce some hardware


http://www.trbo.org/pnw/index.html


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On Aug 7, 2019, 2:34 PM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via Groups.Io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:

I recently set up a hot-spot and got DMR working so I'm happy to help others do the same, but I don't have in-depth knowledge yet.


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On Aug 7, 2019, 1:53 PM, Rowland < k7rwb@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I have had several conversations with different club members on the possibility of having a DMR (digital mobile radio) class locally.  I would want to start at the basics and then work up the knowledge level. I have two questions on this subject…..

 

  1. Does anyone in the club presently have the level of DMR knowledge to teach this class?
  2. If the answer to question 1 is no, then should I look around the area for someone that would be willing to teach this class
  3. And the most important question is how many others would like to sit in this class?

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 

Re: DMR Class

Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW)
 

There is an active DMR group in the area, though, if we want to invite an expert. They even produce some hardware


http://www.trbo.org/pnw/index.html


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On Aug 7, 2019, 2:34 PM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via Groups.Io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:

I recently set up a hot-spot and got DMR working so I'm happy to help others do the same, but I don't have in-depth knowledge yet.


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On Aug 7, 2019, 1:53 PM, Rowland < k7rwb@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I have had several conversations with different club members on the possibility of having a DMR (digital mobile radio) class locally.  I would want to start at the basics and then work up the knowledge level. I have two questions on this subject…..

 

  1. Does anyone in the club presently have the level of DMR knowledge to teach this class?
  2. If the answer to question 1 is no, then should I look around the area for someone that would be willing to teach this class
  3. And the most important question is how many others would like to sit in this class?

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 

Re: DMR Class

Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW)
 

I recently set up a hot-spot and got DMR working so I'm happy to help others do the same, but I don't have in-depth knowledge yet.


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-------- Original Message --------
On Aug 7, 2019, 1:53 PM, Rowland < k7rwb@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I have had several conversations with different club members on the possibility of having a DMR (digital mobile radio) class locally.  I would want to start at the basics and then work up the knowledge level. I have two questions on this subject…..

 

  1. Does anyone in the club presently have the level of DMR knowledge to teach this class?
  2. If the answer to question 1 is no, then should I look around the area for someone that would be willing to teach this class
  3. And the most important question is how many others would like to sit in this class?

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 

Re: DMR Class

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

Schedule allowing I would take the class for sure.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 7, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Rowland <k7rwb@...> wrote:

Hi All,
 
I have had several conversations with different club members on the possibility of having a DMR (digital mobile radio) class locally.  I would want to start at the basics and then work up the knowledge level. I have two questions on this subject…..
 
  1. Does anyone in the club presently have the level of DMR knowledge to teach this class?
  2. If the answer to question 1 is no, then should I look around the area for someone that would be willing to teach this class
  3. And the most important question is how many others would like to sit in this class?
 
Thanks,
 
Rowland 
 

DMR Class

Rowland
 

Hi All,

 

I have had several conversations with different club members on the possibility of having a DMR (digital mobile radio) class locally.  I would want to start at the basics and then work up the knowledge level. I have two questions on this subject…..

 

  1. Does anyone in the club presently have the level of DMR knowledge to teach this class?
  2. If the answer to question 1 is no, then should I look around the area for someone that would be willing to teach this class
  3. And the most important question is how many others would like to sit in this class?

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland