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Re: SnoVARC Weekly net report 14 May 2020
Jackson Beard
Looking forward to the 6m exercise. I've got a new call: AA7JA Traded in the WA7SEA call. Jackson
On Thu, May 14, 2020, 20:38 Ralph Lease <ralph.lease@...> wrote:
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SnoVARC Weekly net report 14 May 2020
Ralph Lease
KC7QXD Ralph (net control) opened the net at 20:00 hours. The following hams checked in: WA7CPA Robin Woodinville W7ABD Jim in Duvall with information for the net K7KDW Kirt in Monroe WA7TBP Tom W7PFB Paul in Carnation KD7AAG Mark Tacoma W7PEZ Paul Woodinville W7ABD Jim reported the following hams checked in via Winlink: AA7Z Dick via VHF W7ABD Jim via HF WA1HEM Howard reported on the Emcomm Simplex test of 13 May 2020. 15 participated in the exercise with 195 signal reports. WA7TBP Tom informed us of the Third Thursday exercise to test 6 meters with SSB and FM. Frequencies to be announced. The net was returned to regular amateur use at 20:18 Thank you to everyone who participated in the net. 73, Ralph KC7QXD
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INVITATION from WWDXC to SnoVarc for Zoom meeting on DMR Tuesday evening May 12
Robin Amundson
All: WWDXC Club President, Rob N7QT, asked me to invite interested SnoVarc members to attend the DMR presentation as described below. To register click the link. Fill out form with first name and call sign as your last name, your email address. Click Submit to register and an invitation pops up.
Click HERE to register for the club meeting. 73,
-rob N7QT
From: wwdxc@groups.io <wwdxc@groups.io> on behalf of N7QT Robert Fanfant <rfanfant@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 10:42 AM To: wwdxc@groups.io <wwdxc@groups.io> Subject: [wwdxc] May WWDXC Monthly meeting - All about Digital Mobile Radio (DMR), presented by Jamie Hughes (WA7JH) Greetings!
Welcome to the second WWDXC virtual club meeting using ZOOM, on Tuesday May 12th 2020. Jamie Hughes will be presenting an introduction into the world of Digital Mobile Radio.
Timeline:
Several important points:
Look forward to seeing all of you at Tuesday meeting. If any of you still have questions on how to use Zoom then please contact me via email prior to Tuesday's meeting.
73, -rob N7QT
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SnoVarc Simplex Exercise Wednesday 5/13 @ 19:00 - Zoom Login Details and Pre-Event Form (required)
Get ready for Wednesday nights Simplex Exercise!
Have your radio set to 146.560, no PL tones and set to the highest power Please fill out this required form prior to joining the exercise http://snovarc.org/simplex-exercise-form/
Join Net Control on Zoom at 19:00. Join Zoom Meeting
https://zoom.us/j/92284872763?pwd=RHdIZG5QOUhXTmtkMElzbjZEWi8rUT09
Meeting ID: 922 8487 2763
Password: 433300
One tap mobile
+12532158782,,92284872763#,,1#,433300# US (Tacoma)
+16699006833,,92284872763#,,1#,433300# US (San Jose)
************************* Howard E. Mahran WA1HEM (425) 864 - 5104 *************************
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Re: Failure is not an option....
No. Kirt simply embedded the form in our website (Thank you Kirt!) - no need to redo
*********************************** Howard Mahran (425) 864-5104 *********************************** -- ************************* Howard E. Mahran WA1HEM (425) 864 - 5104 *************************
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Re: Failure is not an option....
If we already did it, do we need to redo it?
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On May 11, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:
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Re: Failure is not an option....
Updated URL
http://snovarc.org/simplex-exercise-form/ -- ************************* Howard E. Mahran WA1HEM (425) 864 - 5104 *************************
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Re: Failure is not an option....
Kirt White / K7KDW
Nice. Done
Kirt
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> on behalf of Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 11:36 AM To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Failure is not an option.... In preparation for Wednesday please fill out this pre-exercise form. Contact me if you have any questions: https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=KB7oeIudtUStxoW3fJin7knQ1rfAYUxCuPlv-v4WPWBUMlBKNU9aN0hQTURKOTFBNEJFNDJPODYzOS4u -- ************************* Howard E. Mahran WA1HEM (425) 864 - 5104 *************************
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Re: Failure is not an option....
In preparation for Wednesday please fill out this pre-exercise form. Contact me if you have any questions:
https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=KB7oeIudtUStxoW3fJin7knQ1rfAYUxCuPlv-v4WPWBUMlBKNU9aN0hQTURKOTFBNEJFNDJPODYzOS4u -- ************************* Howard E. Mahran WA1HEM (425) 864 - 5104 *************************
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Re: Antenna Tuner or Tune an Antenna with an Analyzer?
Nice. Thanks, Rowland
On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 11:14 AM Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:
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Re: Antenna Tuner or Tune an Antenna with an Analyzer?
Got a new toy... uh... I mean..."Tool" today...
Paul - its your fault with all your talk about NVIS...I take no responsibility for my actions... -- ************************* Howard E. Mahran WA1HEM (425) 864 - 5104 *************************
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Re: Shirts Name Badges Stickers Estimates
You can pick what you like. Unless the club settles on a particular color for the shirt you can pick any color you want. I agree with the logo without the mountains. Not so busy. Thanks, Rowland
On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 12:56 PM Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:
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Shirts
The question was asked about using your own shirts to have SnoVARC logo placed on them. Sandy she can do it but sometimes the material on other shirts do not work well so she cannot guarantee it will hold. Thanks, Rowland
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Re: Shirts Name Badges Stickers Estimates
Robin Amundson
Rowland, Thank you for supplying this information. I prefer the name badge without the mountains because it is crisper, but of course, either way. Also, did you select a specific style or do we get to choose individually which of those styles and colors suit us? I am pretty much done purchasing man-style ham radio t-shirts. Thank you and 73, Robin, WA7CPA
On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:45 AM Rowland <rowland.brasch@...> wrote:
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Re: Shirts Name Badges Stickers Estimates
Lindy KG7IFA
That's a great idea because then we'd know the shirt would fit. It's hard for me to know what size to order since shirt manufacturers size differently. Lindy
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom WA7TBP via groups.io <tomwa7tbp@...> To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io Sent: Fri, May 8, 2020 11:51 am Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Shirts Name Badges Stickers Estimates Hey Rowland:
Sandy has some nice looking choices there. I like the name badge with the mountain. I like the magnetic attachment too. Do you know if Sandy can apply the heat transfer to shirts that an individual might supply?
Just might be nice to have an option like this available.
Tom
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Re: Shirts Name Badges Stickers Estimates
Tom WA7TBP
Hey Rowland:
Sandy has some nice looking choices there. I like the name badge with the mountain. I like the magnetic attachment too. Do you know if Sandy can apply the heat transfer to shirts that an individual might supply?
Just might be nice to have an option like this available.
Tom
In a message dated 5/8/2020 10:45:26 Pacific Standard Time, rowland.brasch@... writes:
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Shirts Name Badges Stickers Estimates
Hello, Here is some information I have on shirts, etc. Remember these are close estimates but final pricing will be obtained once a decision is made on style, color and so on. Take a look and decide what you like and then we will discuss it at the next meeting in June. If any questions pop up let me know and if I don;t have the answers I will find out. Thanks, Rowland
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Re: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation
Kirt White / K7KDW
Sorry, as longs as that was, there was one thing I forgot to touch on.
Dan brought up the Christmas light transmitters which I agree may be a quick way to get up and running, especially if there is someone locally that would loan it out.
I researched setting this up at one time and a lot of people were using the same (higher power) ones you can find on Ebay. That said, EDM Electronics makes one they market toward Christmas displays. It is highly regarded for that and, even though theirs is
low power, people report getting great coverage. Technically speaking I'm sure it would serve this purpose well.
I just checked their website (https://www.edmdesign.com) and they are selling a "drive-in" package for churches. Maybe those are pre-assembled, I don't know. Either way, they have availability.
Again, I'll just re-iterate that even though there are lots of churches and individuals using these options, none of these are part 15 certified so take from that what you will.
Kirt
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> on behalf of Kirt / K7KDW <kirtwhite@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:25 AM To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation I used to have a part 15 FM transmitter but I got rid of it a while ago. Hopefully some of my experience with using them can help
Some brands may give a discount for a church if you order direct. I'm pretty sure Decade used to. Their transmitters are expensive but are rock solid. This may vary and, depending on your budget, some of these may be out of the question. I also
assume most of these companies have back orders now.
Some churches are using non certified transmitters. I assume mostly because it's cheaper and they aren't aware of the regulations. Some will get away with using 1/2 watt or one that has adjustable power levels but some of these transmitters can
be 5-25 watts. I think I still have a higher power one laying around and I would definitely not recommend using something like that, even aside from the legailty.
Some transmitters have built in antennas and some have external connectors. I haven't used one with a built in antenna but I doubt it would matter much for a parking lot. Having an external antenna gives you the added benefit of moving the antenna
closer and higher up but is an added cost as well as an additional piece of equipment to deal with. A simple telescoping antenna gives you the ability to tune it (somewhat) and has worked well for me in the past.
Depending on the size of your parking area (and how noisy the band is in that area), a decent bluetooth FM transmitter may give you enough coverage. I wouldn't expect these to get much past 50 feet but it may be worth a try since
I'm sure these are still readily available. Whichever one you choose, you would want one that could be frequency tuned. One like this (https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Transmitter-Bluetooth-Wireless-Handsfree/dp/B07F5H84HT)
that doesn't have the cigarette lighter attachment built in would help in powering it without resorting to a creative solution. You would also need a bluetooth transmitter that could be paired with it to transmit out
of your mixer. As a side note, you wouldn't want the pastor or whoever is speaking to be able to hear the output audio as the delay would be distracting. This is a few moving parts and I don't know how successful it would be but the parts
are fairly inexpensive.
Our broadcast FM spectrum around here is pretty congested. Finding a good "open" frequency takes some trial and error. Distant FM signals (that still sound like white noise on your radio) still raise the noise floor so not only
finding where there is an open frequency but finding the quietest can take some time. If you have an SDR that you can use to see the spectrum this can be beneficial. You may find some of the quietest spots to be on the edge of the digital sidebands of FM stations
that come in pretty clear to that area.
Don't use a portable radio to test with. The sensitivity differences between car and portable receivers vary too much.
If your transmitter has the ability to transmit in mono, doing so may give you better results.
I hope some of these tips help and hopefully you can find the right solution.
Kirt/K7KDW
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> on behalf of Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io <louis.giliberto@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:13 AM To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation Sorry for the multiple responses. I was digging through some notes of mine.
For wifi the easiest solution is Zello. A broadcast room can be made. People would also be able to listen from home that way. If the service provides free wifi no cell data needs to be used. https://zello.com/ Sent from ProtonMail mobile -------- Original Message -------- On May 7, 2020, 1:09 AM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:
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Re: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation
Kirt White / K7KDW
I used to have a part 15 FM transmitter but I got rid of it a while ago. Hopefully some of my experience with using them can help
Some brands may give a discount for a church if you order direct. I'm pretty sure Decade used to. Their transmitters are expensive but are rock solid. This may vary and, depending on your budget, some of these may be out of the question. I also assume most
of these companies have back orders now.
Some churches are using non certified transmitters. I assume mostly because it's cheaper and they aren't aware of the regulations. Some will get away with using 1/2 watt or one that has adjustable power levels but some of these transmitters can be 5-25 watts.
I think I still have a higher power one laying around and I would definitely not recommend using something like that, even aside from the legailty.
Some transmitters have built in antennas and some have external connectors. I haven't used one with a built in antenna but I doubt it would matter much for a parking lot. Having an external antenna gives you the added benefit of moving the antenna closer and
higher up but is an added cost as well as an additional piece of equipment to deal with. A simple telescoping antenna gives you the ability to tune it (somewhat) and has worked well for me in the past.
Depending on the size of your parking area (and how noisy the band is in that area), a decent bluetooth FM transmitter may give you enough coverage. I wouldn't
expect these to get much past 50 feet but it may be worth a try since I'm sure these are still readily available. Whichever one you choose, you would want one that could be frequency tuned. One like this (https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Transmitter-Bluetooth-Wireless-Handsfree/dp/B07F5H84HT)
that doesn't have the cigarette lighter attachment built in would help in powering it without resorting to a creative solution. You
would also need a bluetooth transmitter that could be paired with it to transmit out of your mixer. As a side note, you wouldn't want the pastor or whoever is speaking to be able to hear the output audio as the delay would be distracting.
This is a few moving parts and I don't know how successful it would be but the parts are fairly inexpensive.
Our broadcast FM spectrum around here is pretty congested. Finding a good "open" frequency takes some trial and error. Distant FM signals (that still sound like
white noise on your radio) still raise the noise floor so not only finding where there is an open frequency but finding the quietest can take some time. If you have an SDR that you can use to see the spectrum this can be beneficial. You may find some of the
quietest spots to be on the edge of the digital sidebands of FM stations that come in pretty clear to that area.
Don't use a portable radio to test with. The sensitivity differences between car and portable receivers vary too much.
If your transmitter has the ability to transmit in mono, doing so may give you better results.
I hope some of these tips help and hopefully you can find the right solution.
Kirt/K7KDW
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> on behalf of Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io <louis.giliberto@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:13 AM To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation Sorry for the multiple responses. I was digging through some notes of mine. For wifi the easiest solution is Zello. A broadcast room can be made. People would also be able to listen from home that way. If the service provides free wifi no cell data needs to be used. https://zello.com/ Sent from ProtonMail mobile -------- Original Message -------- On May 7, 2020, 1:09 AM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:
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Re: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation
Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW)
Sorry for the multiple responses. I was digging through some notes of mine.
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For wifi the easiest solution is Zello. A broadcast room can be made. People would also be able to listen from home that way. If the service provides free wifi no cell data needs to be used. https://zello.com/ Sent from ProtonMail mobile
-------- Original Message -------- On May 7, 2020, 1:09 AM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:
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