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Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

I got the shift worked out too but still can’t connect- I’m thinking it’s the Yaesu setup. More head banging for me


On Aug 10, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:

I can’t claim credit.  Howard was having problems and pointed out that his radio was automatically applying a shift.  Which got me thinking, maybe that was Ralph’s problem.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Ralph Lease <ralph.lease@...> wrote:

ok, I'll fess up.  Paul solved my problem of not transmitting on the 70cm band.  My radio had the positive shift "+" enabled.  Therefore I was not transmitting on 440.850. It was really transmitting on 445.850 and listening on 440.850.  I have saved the frequency and the settings to a memory channel for future use so I don't screw it up.  

There are days I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but I try to be persistent.  Days like today make the lessons stick.

Thank you Paul for sticking with me to solve this problem. 

73 all,
Ralph

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 2:40 PM Ralph Lease via groups.io <ralph.lease=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ralph here. I just connected with Paul via VARA FM on pier to pier at frequency 145.640. I'm having trouble with my sound card working on 2m but not at 70cm. I don't have a clue as to why it is not sending any audio at 70cm.  At this point 2m is ok by me as this test seemed to work.

Paul:  I sent 2 emails so hopefully they arrived as the software attested to.

73,
Ralph



On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:
Sheesh.  Should read ‘9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not compatible’.

Clearly I need to drink more coffee.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:

9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not incompatible.

From what I understand a station running VARA FM Narrow can connect to a VARA FM Wide station, everything just goes more slowly than wide to wide.

Packet and VARA are entirely separate.  So the VARA configuration does not affect the packet configuration at all and vice versa.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

Are we sure that a system set up for 9600 will accept narrow band? I note that many of the Seattle frequencies separate the two. I wonder if that’s because 9600 is not downward compatible with 1200

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

Not connecting at all on packet, not sure if it can even hear me.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 8/10/2020 1:22 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
 know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink.  One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome.  Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly.  Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



.






***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





-- 
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************


Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

I can’t claim credit.  Howard was having problems and pointed out that his radio was automatically applying a shift.  Which got me thinking, maybe that was Ralph’s problem.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Ralph Lease <ralph.lease@...> wrote:

ok, I'll fess up.  Paul solved my problem of not transmitting on the 70cm band.  My radio had the positive shift "+" enabled.  Therefore I was not transmitting on 440.850. It was really transmitting on 445.850 and listening on 440.850.  I have saved the frequency and the settings to a memory channel for future use so I don't screw it up.  

There are days I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but I try to be persistent.  Days like today make the lessons stick.

Thank you Paul for sticking with me to solve this problem. 

73 all,
Ralph

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 2:40 PM Ralph Lease via groups.io <ralph.lease=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ralph here. I just connected with Paul via VARA FM on pier to pier at frequency 145.640. I'm having trouble with my sound card working on 2m but not at 70cm. I don't have a clue as to why it is not sending any audio at 70cm.  At this point 2m is ok by me as this test seemed to work.

Paul:  I sent 2 emails so hopefully they arrived as the software attested to.

73,
Ralph



On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:
Sheesh.  Should read ‘9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not compatible’.

Clearly I need to drink more coffee.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:

9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not incompatible.

From what I understand a station running VARA FM Narrow can connect to a VARA FM Wide station, everything just goes more slowly than wide to wide.

Packet and VARA are entirely separate.  So the VARA configuration does not affect the packet configuration at all and vice versa.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

Are we sure that a system set up for 9600 will accept narrow band? I note that many of the Seattle frequencies separate the two. I wonder if that’s because 9600 is not downward compatible with 1200

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

Not connecting at all on packet, not sure if it can even hear me.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 8/10/2020 1:22 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
 know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink.  One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome.  Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly.  Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



.






***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





-- 
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************








Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Ralph Lease
 

ok, I'll fess up.  Paul solved my problem of not transmitting on the 70cm band.  My radio had the positive shift "+" enabled.  Therefore I was not transmitting on 440.850. It was really transmitting on 445.850 and listening on 440.850.  I have saved the frequency and the settings to a memory channel for future use so I don't screw it up.  

There are days I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but I try to be persistent.  Days like today make the lessons stick.

Thank you Paul for sticking with me to solve this problem. 

73 all,
Ralph

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 2:40 PM Ralph Lease via groups.io <ralph.lease=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Ralph here. I just connected with Paul via VARA FM on pier to pier at frequency 145.640. I'm having trouble with my sound card working on 2m but not at 70cm. I don't have a clue as to why it is not sending any audio at 70cm.  At this point 2m is ok by me as this test seemed to work.

Paul:  I sent 2 emails so hopefully they arrived as the software attested to.

73,
Ralph



On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:
Sheesh.  Should read ‘9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not compatible’.

Clearly I need to drink more coffee.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:

9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not incompatible.

From what I understand a station running VARA FM Narrow can connect to a VARA FM Wide station, everything just goes more slowly than wide to wide.

Packet and VARA are entirely separate.  So the VARA configuration does not affect the packet configuration at all and vice versa.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

Are we sure that a system set up for 9600 will accept narrow band? I note that many of the Seattle frequencies separate the two. I wonder if that’s because 9600 is not downward compatible with 1200

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

Not connecting at all on packet, not sure if it can even hear me.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 8/10/2020 1:22 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
 know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink.  One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome.  Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly.  Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



.






***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************



Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Ryan - KJ7GIE
 

I _think_ I sent something?

*I don't know what I'm doing other than procrastinating.


Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

Great, thanks.  Now we just need to figure out why 70cm is not working for you.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Ralph Lease <ralph.lease@...> wrote:

Ralph here. I just connected with Paul via VARA FM on pier to pier at frequency 145.640. I'm having trouble with my sound card working on 2m but not at 70cm. I don't have a clue as to why it is not sending any audio at 70cm.  At this point 2m is ok by me as this test seemed to work.

Paul:  I sent 2 emails so hopefully they arrived as the software attested to.

73,
Ralph



On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:
Sheesh.  Should read ‘9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not compatible’.

Clearly I need to drink more coffee.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:

9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not incompatible.

From what I understand a station running VARA FM Narrow can connect to a VARA FM Wide station, everything just goes more slowly than wide to wide.

Packet and VARA are entirely separate.  So the VARA configuration does not affect the packet configuration at all and vice versa.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

Are we sure that a system set up for 9600 will accept narrow band? I note that many of the Seattle frequencies separate the two. I wonder if that’s because 9600 is not downward compatible with 1200

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

Not connecting at all on packet, not sure if it can even hear me.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 8/10/2020 1:22 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
 know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink.  One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome.  Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly.  Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



.






***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************






Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Ralph Lease
 

Ralph here. I just connected with Paul via VARA FM on pier to pier at frequency 145.640. I'm having trouble with my sound card working on 2m but not at 70cm. I don't have a clue as to why it is not sending any audio at 70cm.  At this point 2m is ok by me as this test seemed to work.

Paul:  I sent 2 emails so hopefully they arrived as the software attested to.

73,
Ralph



On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:
Sheesh.  Should read ‘9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not compatible’.

Clearly I need to drink more coffee.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:

9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not incompatible.

From what I understand a station running VARA FM Narrow can connect to a VARA FM Wide station, everything just goes more slowly than wide to wide.

Packet and VARA are entirely separate.  So the VARA configuration does not affect the packet configuration at all and vice versa.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

Are we sure that a system set up for 9600 will accept narrow band? I note that many of the Seattle frequencies separate the two. I wonder if that’s because 9600 is not downward compatible with 1200

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

Not connecting at all on packet, not sure if it can even hear me.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 8/10/2020 1:22 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
 know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink.  One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome.  Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly.  Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



.






***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************



Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

Sheesh.  Should read ‘9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not compatible’.

Clearly I need to drink more coffee.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:

9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not incompatible.

From what I understand a station running VARA FM Narrow can connect to a VARA FM Wide station, everything just goes more slowly than wide to wide.

Packet and VARA are entirely separate.  So the VARA configuration does not affect the packet configuration at all and vice versa.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

Are we sure that a system set up for 9600 will accept narrow band? I note that many of the Seattle frequencies separate the two. I wonder if that’s because 9600 is not downward compatible with 1200

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

Not connecting at all on packet, not sure if it can even hear me.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 8/10/2020 1:22 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
 know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink.  One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome.  Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly.  Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



.






***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************



Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

9600 baud packet and 1200 baud packet are not incompatible.

From what I understand a station running VARA FM Narrow can connect to a VARA FM Wide station, everything just goes more slowly than wide to wide.

Packet and VARA are entirely separate.  So the VARA configuration does not affect the packet configuration at all and vice versa.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

Are we sure that a system set up for 9600 will accept narrow band? I note that many of the Seattle frequencies separate the two. I wonder if that’s because 9600 is not downward compatible with 1200

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

Not connecting at all on packet, not sure if it can even hear me.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 8/10/2020 1:22 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
 know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink.  One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome.  Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly.  Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



.






***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************


Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

Are we sure that a system set up for 9600 will accept narrow band? I note that many of the Seattle frequencies separate the two. I wonder if that’s because 9600 is not downward compatible with 1200

On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

Not connecting at all on packet, not sure if it can even hear me.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 8/10/2020 1:22 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
 know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink.  One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome.  Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly.  Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



.






***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************


Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Shawn / K7ATA
 

Not connecting at all on packet, not sure if it can even hear me.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 8/10/2020 1:22 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink. One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome. Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly. Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



.


Re: Winlink and VARA FM

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

Fantastic! I will give it a try tonight (at 1200)...

On Aug 10, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...> wrote:

know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink.  One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome.  Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly.  Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!






***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************


Winlink and VARA FM

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

know several folks are trying to get VARA FM working with Winlink. One of the problems everyone has is that there’s only one RMS station even close, and none of us can reach it.

So I’m happy to report that I now have a temporary fix, which is that my UHF Winlink RMS has been resurrected and is running VARA FM.

W7PFB-10, 440.850, running VARA FM Wide and at least in theory also running 1200 baud packet.

If you try to use it, please let me know how it went, regardless of outcome. Getting this working definitely involved creating a few new head-sized dents in the walls of my shack, so I’m not entirely convinced it’s all set up correctly. Feedback is appreciated!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!


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Re: Snovarc Business Meeting and Elmer Session - Thu, 08/06/2020 6:15pm-8:00pm #cal-reminder

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Updated Event: Snovarc Business Meeting and Elmer Session #cal-invite

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Snovarc Business Meeting and Elmer Session

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Is the chimney aluminum flashing going to screw up my GP6?

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 
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Hi all,

I'm planning on mounting my GP6 on the highest point on my house, the top of the chimney. As I evaluated the placement I realized that the top of the chimney is surrounded by ember protection in the form of aluminum flashing (see pic). I'm now thinking I should avoid mounting my GP6 near this as it might cause bizarre distortions/reflections. What do you think?


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Re: Battery Chemistry Discussion

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

I keep my SLA (sealed lead acid ) batteries fully charged. The ones not in active use get topped up once a month.

All my HT’s work on LIPO batteries. In theory the battery life is shortened when they are stored with a charge over 80%. The batteries in the get home bags in the car I store fully charged anyway. They get topped up every 2-3 months. This means their service life will be shortened. Ah, well, they’re cheap Baofengtech batteries, and basically the stuff in the get home bag is all considered overhead costs of being somewhat prepared. I just don’t worry about it.

I have fairly expensive batteries for the Kenwood HT’s at home. They tend to be kept fully charged. I know this is not optimal, but frankly the optimal thing is just not very convenient. My policy is that, if the battery on the HT is over 80% I don’t generally put it in the charger. But I have a bunch of batteries, I cycle thru them, and when they get charged, they get charged up to 100% and then put in the stack for use.

This is all in defiance of the best advice. Sometimes the optimal policy is just too much of a PITA for me to follow it, let alone care.

I have to say, I’ve used rechargeable batteries using NiCad, NiMH, and LIPO technologies. In terms of longevity and freedom from hassle, LIPO is the clear winner even with my staunch defiance of ‘best battery maintenance’ practices.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 3, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Ryan - KJ7GIE <rsm@reign.net> wrote:

Howdy... On last Thursday's net there was discussion on batteries and what people do to maintain them so that everything has a healthy charge in case of needing to leave the grid. We ran out of time but I wanted to ask if we had a resident "battery chemistry" expert?

I know lithium ion is probably the worst chemistry for this kind of situation because it doesn't like to be stored at max capacity and the life of the battery is directly determined by how many times you fully charge it. Knowing that, I looked and found every single one of my HTs using Li-ion. So, some references would helpful as well as alternative chemistries, their pros / cons, for both HTs and portable rigs. Thanks!




Re: Battery Chemistry Discussion

Mark Kenworthy
 

Spell check got me there.  LFP batteries are also known as LiFe and (more correctly) LiFePo (Lithium Iron Phosphate).

 

Mark

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Kenworthy via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2020 7:06 AM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Battery Chemistry Discussion

 

For radios, the LFP (Life, Lithium Iron Phosphate) have the best characteristics.  Most of the RC hobby batteries are LiPo (Lithium Polymer).  LiPo batteries do not like to be stored charged and lose charge and capacity fairly quickly if they are stored charged.  LiPo batteries are also quite volatile, can catch on fire if they are charged wrong, discharged wrong, or damaged.

 

LFP batteries are completely happy to store in the charged state, have extremely low internal resistance so the charge lasts a very long time, and are almost impossible to catch on fire.  The reason the LFP batteries aren’t very popular in the RC hobby is that they have slightly lower energy density and quite a bit lower peak current capability.

 

Mark

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Pflugrath via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:11 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Battery Chemistry Discussion

 

This information source may be of help to you.  My experience is with portable radios.  Every radio I own now use lithiums except for the cheapo FRS radios.

https://mpoweruk.com/performance.htm     Make sure you check out some of the references noted within the article.

Lithium batteries might be what you are looking for.  They have a very low self discharge rate on the order of 2% per month and have no memory.  The depth of discharge is the variable for determining the number of life cycles.  https://mpoweruk.com/life.htm#dod    

Some lithium battery packs like used in the KX2 have built in circuitry that control the charging and discharge limiting temperature during charging and maximum discharge voltage.  This makes sure you do not accidentally damage the battery and shorten usable life.

Raw lithium batteries used for RC application must somehow be monitored remotely during use to prevent over discharge and special chargers are used to monitor individual cells to make sure the cells are properly charged. 

Dan KA7GPP

 


Re: Battery Chemistry Discussion

Mark Kenworthy
 

For radios, the LFP (Life, Lithium Iron Phosphate) have the best characteristics.  Most of the RC hobby batteries are LiPo (Lithium Polymer).  LiPo batteries do not like to be stored charged and lose charge and capacity fairly quickly if they are stored charged.  LiPo batteries are also quite volatile, can catch on fire if they are charged wrong, discharged wrong, or damaged.

 

LFP batteries are completely happy to store in the charged state, have extremely low internal resistance so the charge lasts a very long time, and are almost impossible to catch on fire.  The reason the LFP batteries aren’t very popular in the RC hobby is that they have slightly lower energy density and quite a bit lower peak current capability.

 

Mark

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Pflugrath via groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:11 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Battery Chemistry Discussion

 

This information source may be of help to you.  My experience is with portable radios.  Every radio I own now use lithiums except for the cheapo FRS radios.

https://mpoweruk.com/performance.htm     Make sure you check out some of the references noted within the article.

Lithium batteries might be what you are looking for.  They have a very low self discharge rate on the order of 2% per month and have no memory.  The depth of discharge is the variable for determining the number of life cycles.  https://mpoweruk.com/life.htm#dod    

Some lithium battery packs like used in the KX2 have built in circuitry that control the charging and discharge limiting temperature during charging and maximum discharge voltage.  This makes sure you do not accidentally damage the battery and shorten usable life.

Raw lithium batteries used for RC application must somehow be monitored remotely during use to prevent over discharge and special chargers are used to monitor individual cells to make sure the cells are properly charged. 

Dan KA7GPP

 

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