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More Information On Saturday CDCCC Drill
Rowland
Please read the following information for more details on this Saturday's Carnation Duvall Citizen Corps Drill on 9/26. It is an online drill using a program called Zoom. If you are not familiar with Zoom there is information in the attachment that may help you.
This is the last call to register for participating in the 2020
Carnation-Duvall Citizen Corps Annual Exercise. Please reply to info@... today to reserve your spot. Attached is some additional information about how this virtual drill will work. This year we are focusing on a failure of the Tolt Dam and the surrounding responses, which as you all know is very timely! The
Exercise will run from 10AM - Noon on Saturday, September 26th. Being
that this is a virtual exercise we are limiting the number of CDCCC
Volunteers that can participate to 50. The exercise is open to our CERTs, MRC and SnoVARC volunteers.
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Re: Next club meeting is October 1. Business 6:15. Elmer 7 p.m.
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Link to zoom meeting please.
Thanks Ken On Sep 21, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Robin Amundson < wa7cpa@...> wrote: Hi All, As our club is oriented toward disaster preparedness, our October 1 Elmer session will be how to prevent ham radio tower climbing disasters, of which there are too many, mostly preventable. Our presenter K1IR will be presenting from the East Coast, so it will be 10 p.m. for him. It would be awesome if we could get 20+ in our Zoom audience to make this worthwhile for Jim's time. I recently saw his presentation on another Zoom meeting and it was jaw-dropping for everyone. It stoked an additional hour of conversation after Jim left the meeting. That good. PLEASE reserve this time on your calendar. Invite anyone you know outside the club who might be taking down a tower or putting up a tower or who is an observer on the ground. Jim is on a mission for no more amateur radio tower climbing fatalities.
ELMER SESSION for October 1st Meeting:
Even if you never climb a tower, some time a ham friend may. Jim Idelson, K1IR, will empower you with the information you need as an on-the-ground observer/helper to say STOP when something does not look right. There have been too many avoidable amateur radio tower climbing accidents and deaths. Jim did extensive research on the matter, subsequently founding Zero Falls Alliance, https://zerofalls.org/. He discovered underlying causes and actionable preventive measures to amateur radio tower climbing accidents and fatalities. His deftly delivered presentations are shocking, riveting, and potentially life-saving. That is the point..
Thank you and 73, Robin Amundson, WA7CPA
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Rowland
Hi SnoVARC Members,
This coming Saturday (September 26th) is the Annual Carnation Duvall Citizen Corps Council Volunteers Drill. We need participation from SnoVARC members. Always remember we are part of the CDCCC and it is one of our served agencies. It is very important for us to work with the other groups within CDCCC so we are familiar with how the organization operates as a whole so when something does arise and they need our help we have a better understanding of what might be required of us.
The exercise will run from 10AM-Noon and is open to our Community Emergency Response Teams (CERTs),
Medical Reserve Corps (MRC) and Sno Valley Amateur Radio Club members (SnoVARC).
So please mark your calendars for this Saturday to participate.
It will be a virtual exercise so you can participate from the comfort of your home.
To sign up send an email to info@.... For questions call Kathy Brasch @425-941-9295 or email info@...
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Annual CERT, SNOVARC, Medical reserve Corp Exercise
Hello all,
Just wanted to remind you the annual September exercise for the groups shown in the subject line is this Saturday. Please join us for this 2 hour on-line experience. Please sign up per the instructions shown below. Looking forward to seeing you this Saturday.
73,
Tom, WA7TBP
Saturday, September 26, from 10 AM – 12 PM. On-line event.
It's time for our Annual CDCCC Training Exercise!! This year we are focusing on a failure of the Tolt Dam and the surrounding responses, which as you all know is very timely! The Exercise will run from 10 AM - Noon on Saturday, September 26th. Being that this is a virtual exercise we are limiting the number of volunteers that can participate to 50, so SIGN UP EARLY!
The exercise is open to our Community Emergency Response Teams (CERTs), Medical Reserve Corps (MRC) and Sno Valley Amateur Radio Club Ham operator (SnoVARC) volunteers.
To sign up send an email to info@.... For questions call Kathy Brasch @425-941-9295 or email info@....
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Re: Next club meeting is October 1. Business 6:15. Elmer 7 p.m.
Link is on SnoVarc website. Howard usually does reminder post here.
Link to zoom meeting please.
Thanks Ken On Sep 21, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Robin Amundson < wa7cpa@...> wrote: Hi All, As our club is oriented toward disaster preparedness, our October 1 Elmer session will be how to prevent ham radio tower climbing disasters, of which there are too many, mostly preventable. Our presenter K1IR will be presenting from the East Coast, so it will be 10 p.m. for him. It would be awesome if we could get 20+ in our Zoom audience to make this worthwhile for Jim's time. I recently saw his presentation on another Zoom meeting and it was jaw-dropping for everyone. It stoked an additional hour of conversation after Jim left the meeting. That good. PLEASE reserve this time on your calendar. Invite anyone you know outside the club who might be taking down a tower or putting up a tower or who is an observer on the ground. Jim is on a mission for no more amateur radio tower climbing fatalities.
ELMER SESSION for October 1st Meeting:
Even if you never climb a tower, some time a ham friend may. Jim Idelson, K1IR, will empower you with the information you need as an on-the-ground observer/helper to say STOP when something does not look right. There have been too many avoidable amateur radio tower climbing accidents and deaths. Jim did extensive research on the matter, subsequently founding Zero Falls Alliance, https://zerofalls.org/. He discovered underlying causes and actionable preventive measures to amateur radio tower climbing accidents and fatalities. His deftly delivered presentations are shocking, riveting, and potentially life-saving. That is the point..
Thank you and 73, Robin Amundson, WA7CPA
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Re: Next club meeting is October 1. Business 6:15. Elmer 7 p.m.
Link to zoom meeting please.
On Sep 21, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Robin Amundson < wa7cpa@...> wrote: Hi All, As our club is oriented toward disaster preparedness, our October 1 Elmer session will be how to prevent ham radio tower climbing disasters, of which there are too many, mostly preventable. Our presenter K1IR will be presenting from the East Coast, so it will be 10 p.m. for him. It would be awesome if we could get 20+ in our Zoom audience to make this worthwhile for Jim's time. I recently saw his presentation on another Zoom meeting and it was jaw-dropping for everyone. It stoked an additional hour of conversation after Jim left the meeting. That good. PLEASE reserve this time on your calendar. Invite anyone you know outside the club who might be taking down a tower or putting up a tower or who is an observer on the ground. Jim is on a mission for no more amateur radio tower climbing fatalities.
ELMER SESSION for October 1st Meeting:
Even if you never climb a tower, some time a ham friend may. Jim Idelson, K1IR, will empower you with the information you need as an on-the-ground observer/helper to say STOP when something does not look right. There have been too many avoidable amateur radio tower climbing accidents and deaths. Jim did extensive research on the matter, subsequently founding Zero Falls Alliance, https://zerofalls.org/. He discovered underlying causes and actionable preventive measures to amateur radio tower climbing accidents and fatalities. His deftly delivered presentations are shocking, riveting, and potentially life-saving. That is the point..
Thank you and 73, Robin Amundson, WA7CPA
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Next club meeting is October 1. Business 6:15. Elmer 7 p.m.
Hi All, As our club is oriented toward disaster preparedness, our October 1 Elmer session will be how to prevent ham radio tower climbing disasters, of which there are too many, mostly preventable. Our presenter K1IR will be presenting from the East Coast, so it will be 10 p.m. for him. It would be awesome if we could get 20+ in our Zoom audience to make this worthwhile for Jim's time. I recently saw his presentation on another Zoom meeting and it was jaw-dropping for everyone. It stoked an additional hour of conversation after Jim left the meeting. That good. PLEASE reserve this time on your calendar. Invite anyone you know outside the club who might be taking down a tower or putting up a tower or who is an observer on the ground. Jim is on a mission for no more amateur radio tower climbing fatalities.
ELMER SESSION for October 1st Meeting:
Even if you never climb a tower, some time a ham friend may. Jim Idelson, K1IR, will empower you with the information you need as an on-the-ground observer/helper to say STOP when something does not look right. There have been too many avoidable amateur radio tower climbing accidents and deaths. Jim did extensive research on the matter, subsequently founding Zero Falls Alliance, https://zerofalls.org/. He discovered underlying causes and actionable preventive measures to amateur radio tower climbing accidents and fatalities. His deftly delivered presentations are shocking, riveting, and potentially life-saving. That is the point..
Thank you and 73, Robin Amundson, WA7CPA
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Hello everyone:
It was good to hear all the positive remembrances about Jim last night at net. Ralph, thank you for doing the last call for him. It was very moving. This afternoon, Jim's wife, Jo-Anne, called me. She appreciated the flowers sent to her from SNOVARC. (Lindy prepared and coordinated the order and delivery of the flowers.) Jo-Anne has family with her now, and they are helping her through this difficult time. Jim will be cremated and there will be a private family gathering after the cremation. At this point, the funeral home doing the cremation and service can only hold 15 people. Jo-Anne is originally from the Philippines. They have a tradition to honor a person 1 year after their passing. She hopes to have a larger memorial one year from now. I described the Thursday night net and the remembrances expressed by those participating in the net. She was very moved by the final call. She went on to describe how important SNOVARC was to Jim, and how he loved the interactions with all the members of the club. She described how much he enjoyed doing projects for the club. She thanked everyone for the friendship shared with Jim. If any other information comes along, I will be sure to pas it on. 73, Tom
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Hot Spot options: Zoom meeting invitation 1800 today
I wanted to invite everyone to join an educational series provided by Puget Sound DMR Coalition surrounding hot spots. Tonight, September 19th at 18:00 PST is the second session of four with a topic of:
“What are my options for a hot spot.” Presented by Rob (N7QT) of the Western Washington DX Club and DXexpeditioner.
This session is being held on Zoom. The presentation will last about an hour and we will leave the session up with plenty of time to ask questions.
The series schedule will be as follows:
September 12th, 18:00 PST (1 Hour)– What is a Hot Spot, and why do I want or need one? Presenter: Michael Ricky AF6FB
September 19th, 18:00 PST (1-2 Hours) – What are my options for a Hot Spot(s)? Presenter: Rob Fanfant N7QT
To be announced: The following are tentative.
September 26th, 18:00 PST (1-3 Hours) – Now that I own one, how do I build and configure it? Presenter: Jamie Hughes WA7JH and Team
October 3rd, 18:00 (1-2 Hours) – What are some of the advanced features and how do I configure those? Presenter: Michael Ricky AF6FB and Team
We even have a prize from C4Labs of Tacoma Washington as a giveaway.
73,
Jamie Hughes
WA7JH
Founder
Email: wa7jh@...
Phone: (360) 362-4575
Puget Sound Digital Mobile Radio Coalition
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Hello everyone:
It was good to hear all the positive remembrances about Jim last night at net. Ralph, thank you for doing the last call for him. It was very moving.
This afternoon, Jim's wife, Jo-Anne, called me. She appreciated the flowers sent to her from SNOVARC. (Lindy prepared and coordinated the order and delivery of the flowers.) Jo-Anne has family with her now, and they are helping her through this difficult time. Jim will be cremated and there will be a private family gathering after the cremation. At this point, the funeral home doing the cremation and service can only hold 15 people. Jo-Anne is originally from the Philippines. They have a tradition to honor a person 1 year after their passing. She hopes to have a larger memorial one year from now.
I described the Thursday night net and the remembrances expressed by those participating in the net. She was very moved by the final call. She went on to describe how important SNOVARC was to Jim, and how he loved the interactions with all the members of the club. She described how much he enjoyed doing projects for the club. She thanked everyone for the friendship shared with Jim.
If any other information comes along, I will be sure to pas it on.
73,
Tom
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Dale Smith <dale_smith@...>
Well, I’m going to be at hunting camp and wanted to do something other than VHF. I will probably wait until I pass my general late this year or early the next. I was unaware 6M was best during June. Are the other bands affected by seasons? Regards, Dale Smith 425-686-9304 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dalegsmith KJ7GHU "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice." - American author, historian and philosopher Will Durant
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robin Amundson Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 6:36 PM To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Radio club radios Dale,
As far as I know the Board has not set a specific policy about borrowing club equipment except that currently it is not inventoried and is to be used at the shack for now...
As for 6m, I'm not sure that sounds like a lot of fun this month. June is a much better 6m month, unless maybe you are talking FM for an activation and let people know??
Surprised no responses yet...?
73,
Robin, WA7CPA
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Please get on the repeater at 7 p.m. and 8 p.m.
Even if you have never participated in the Rookie Roundtable at 7 p.m., please at least check in to honor our Jim, W7ABD (sk). 441.825.
Also, please drive somewhere if you have to to get propagation into the check-in at 8 p.m. for a Last Call for Jim.
Thank you.
73,
Robin, WA7CPA
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Dale,
As far as I know the Board has not set a specific policy about borrowing club equipment except that currently it is not inventoried and is to be used at the shack for now...
As for 6m, I'm not sure that sounds like a lot of fun this month. June is a much better 6m month, unless maybe you are talking FM for an activation and let people know??
Surprised no responses yet...?
73,
Robin, WA7CPA
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Dale Smith <dale_smith@...>
Does the club have radios, antennas, and the other accoutrements of RF coms one might borrow? If all goes well I’ll be WSW of Naches, Washington at about 4000 feet and I thought it might be fun to try the 6M band. Do we have such equipment and what would the fee be? Regards, Dale Smith 425-686-9304 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dalegsmith KJ7GHU "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice." - American author, historian and philosopher Will Durant
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ARLB023 Northern Florida ARES Requests Clear Frequencies for HF Nets
fyi
-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
Begin forwarded message:
Subject: ARLB023 Northern Florida ARES Requests Clear Frequencies for HF Nets
Date: September 16, 2020 at 12:58:46 PM PDT
SB QST @ ARL $ARLB023
ARLB023 Northern Florida ARES Requests Clear Frequencies for HF Nets
ZCZC AG23
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 23 ARLB023
From ARRL Headquarters
Newington CT September 16, 2020
To all radio amateurs
SB QST ARL ARLB023
ARLB023 Northern Florida ARES Requests Clear Frequencies for HF Nets
Northern Florida Section Emergency Coordinator Karl Martin, K4HBN,
is requesting that stations not directly involved in the Amateur
Radio Emergency Service (ARES) response to Hurricane Sally please
avoid 3.950 MHz (primary) and 7.242 MHz (backup).
ARES has activated in four Northern Florida counties. Shelters are
open, and power and telecommunications outages are widespread,
Martin reports.
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Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes
I’m pretty sure it should be possible to do VARA FM WIDE on an FTM-400D. The connector on the back of the radio includes the right signals but for reasons known only to Yaesu does not use a 6 pin mini-din but instead a 9 pin mini-din with other signals added in. So you’d need to build a cable from 6 pin mini-din to 9-pin Yaesu format mini-din.
-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
On Sep 16, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM < wa1hem@...> wrote:
Good Point Shawn. I should try it with my FT991a On Sep 15, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Shawn / K7ATA < shawn@...> wrote:
the nice part is that the DRA-50 is NOT radio specific, and at some point you may have additional radios that are compatible with wide mode.--Shawn--K7ATAOn 9/15/2020 7:25 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM wrote:Well that’s too bad - I guess I jumped the gun on the DRA-50 ☹
Thanks for investigating...
-----Original Message-----
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn / K7ATA
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:40 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes
so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface.
Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that.
--Shawn
--K7ATA
On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
Yes.
-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...
<mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:
Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...
<mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:
Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode. I suspect
that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput
way back.
Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard
is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode. So I expect that’s
what is going on.
Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you
the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode
either. So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.
(although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).
-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
<wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:
Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:
1) Image attached to an email
2) Large Text Email
The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both
Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS
station has a maximum file size that I exceeded The second email
test was with a multipage text-based email.
Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I
ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as fast as Wide:
NARROW:
*** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357, Time: 00:19, bytes/minute:
2628*6
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
*** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min; 1 Min
Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min
WIDE MODE:
*** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343, Time: 01:30, bytes/minute: 5503*
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
*** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min; 1 Min Peak
Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min
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Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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Howard Mahran (425) 864-5104 ***********************************
-- ************************* Howard E. Mahran WA1HEM (425) 864 - 5104 *************************
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Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes
Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
Good Point Shawn. I should try it with my FT991a On Sep 15, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Shawn / K7ATA < shawn@...> wrote:
the nice part is that the DRA-50 is NOT radio specific, and at some point you may have additional radios that are compatible with wide mode.--Shawn--K7ATAOn 9/15/2020 7:25 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM wrote:Well that’s too bad - I guess I jumped the gun on the DRA-50 ☹
Thanks for investigating...
-----Original Message-----
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn / K7ATA
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:40 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes
so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface.
Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that.
--Shawn
--K7ATA
On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
Yes.
-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...
<mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:
Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...
<mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:
Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode. I suspect
that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput
way back.
Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard
is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode. So I expect that’s
what is going on.
Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you
the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode
either. So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.
(although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).
-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
<wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:
Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:
1) Image attached to an email
2) Large Text Email
The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both
Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS
station has a maximum file size that I exceeded The second email
test was with a multipage text-based email.
Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I
ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as fast as Wide:
NARROW:
*** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357, Time: 00:19, bytes/minute:
2628*6
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
*** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min; 1 Min
Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min
WIDE MODE:
*** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343, Time: 01:30, bytes/minute: 5503*
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
*** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min; 1 Min Peak
Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min
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Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************
***********************************
Howard Mahran (425) 864-5104 ***********************************
-- ************************* Howard E. Mahran WA1HEM (425) 864 - 5104 *************************
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Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes
Rowland
I just ordered the 36. Am I good with that choice?
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:25 PM Shawn / K7ATA < shawn@...> wrote: the nice part is that the DRA-50 is NOT radio specific, and at some
point you may have additional radios that are compatible with wide mode.
--Shawn
--K7ATA
On 9/15/2020 7:25 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM wrote:
> Well that’s too bad - I guess I jumped the gun on the DRA-50 ☹
>
> Thanks for investigating...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn / K7ATA
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:40 PM
> To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes
>
> so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface.
> Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that.
>
> --Shawn
> --K7ATA
>
> On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
>> Yes.
>>
>> -p W7PFB
>> 73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...
>>> <mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...
>>> <mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode. I suspect
>>> that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput
>>> way back.
>>>
>>> Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard
>>> is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode. So I expect that’s
>>> what is going on.
>>>
>>> Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you
>>> the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode
>>> either. So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.
>>> (although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).
>>>
>>>
>>> -p W7PFB
>>> 73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
>>>
>>>> On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
>>>> <wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Image attached to an email
>>>> 2) Large Text Email
>>>>
>>>> The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both
>>>> Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS
>>>> station has a maximum file size that I exceeded The second email
>>>> test was with a multipage text-based email.
>>>>
>>>> Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I
>>>> ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as fast as Wide:
>>>>
>>>> NARROW:
>>>> *** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
>>>> *** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357, Time: 00:19, bytes/minute:
>>>> 2628*6
>>>> FQ
>>>> *** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
>>>> *** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min; 1 Min
>>>> Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min
>>>>
>>>> WIDE MODE:
>>>> *** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
>>>> *** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343, Time: 01:30, bytes/minute: 5503*
>>>> FQ
>>>> *** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
>>>> *** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min; 1 Min Peak
>>>> Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *************************
>>>> Howard E. Mahran
>>>> WA1HEM
>>>> (425) 864 - 5104
>>>> *************************
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Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes
the nice part is that the DRA-50 is NOT radio specific, and at some point you may have additional radios that are compatible with wide mode.
--Shawn
--K7ATA
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On 9/15/2020 7:25 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM wrote: Well that’s too bad - I guess I jumped the gun on the DRA-50 ☹
Thanks for investigating...
-----Original Message-----
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn / K7ATA
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:40 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes
so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface.
Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that.
--Shawn
--K7ATA
On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
Yes.
-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...
<mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:
Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...
<mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:
Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode. I suspect
that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput
way back.
Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard
is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode. So I expect that’s
what is going on.
Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you
the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode
either. So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.
(although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).
-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
<wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:
Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:
1) Image attached to an email
2) Large Text Email
The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both
Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS
station has a maximum file size that I exceeded The second email
test was with a multipage text-based email.
Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I
ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as fast as Wide:
NARROW:
*** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357, Time: 00:19, bytes/minute:
2628*6
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
*** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min; 1 Min
Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min
WIDE MODE:
*** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343, Time: 01:30, bytes/minute: 5503*
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
*** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min; 1 Min Peak
Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min
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Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes
Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
Well that’s too bad - I guess I jumped the gun on the DRA-50 ☹
Thanks for investigating...
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-----Original Message----- From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn / K7ATA Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:40 PM To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface. Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that. --Shawn --K7ATA On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote: Yes.
-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...
<mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:
Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...
<mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:
Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode. I suspect
that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput
way back.
Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard
is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode. So I expect that’s
what is going on.
Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you
the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode
either. So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.
(although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).
-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
<wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:
Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:
1) Image attached to an email
2) Large Text Email
The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both
Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS
station has a maximum file size that I exceeded The second email
test was with a multipage text-based email.
Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I
ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as fast as Wide:
NARROW:
*** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357, Time: 00:19, bytes/minute:
2628*6
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
*** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min; 1 Min
Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min
WIDE MODE:
*** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343, Time: 01:30, bytes/minute: 5503*
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
*** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min; 1 Min Peak
Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min
--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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