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Rowland
 

Hello,

Here is some information I have on shirts, etc.  Remember these are close estimates but final pricing will be obtained once a decision is made on style, color and so on.

Take a look and decide what you like and then we will discuss it at the next meeting in June. If any questions pop up let me know and if I don;t have the answers I will find out.


Thanks,

Rowland


Re: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

Kirt White / K7KDW
 

Sorry,  as longs as that was, there was one thing I forgot to touch on.

Dan brought up the Christmas light transmitters which I agree may be a quick way to get up and running, especially if there is someone locally that would loan it out. 

I researched setting this up at one time and a lot of people were using the same (higher power) ones you can find on Ebay. That said, EDM Electronics makes one they market toward Christmas displays. It is highly regarded for that and, even though theirs is low power, people report getting great coverage. Technically speaking I'm sure it would serve this purpose well. 

I just checked their website (https://www.edmdesign.com) and they are selling a "drive-in" package for churches. Maybe those are pre-assembled, I don't know. Either way, they have availability. 

Again, I'll just re-iterate that even though there are lots of churches and individuals using these options, none of these are part 15 certified so take from that what you will.

Kirt


From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> on behalf of Kirt / K7KDW <kirtwhite@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:25 AM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation
 
I used to have a part 15 FM transmitter but I got rid of it a while ago. Hopefully some of my experience with using them can help

Some brands may give a discount for a church if you order direct. I'm pretty sure Decade used to. Their transmitters are expensive but are rock solid. This may vary and, depending on your budget, some of these may be out of the question. I also assume most of these companies have back orders now.

Some churches are using non certified transmitters. I assume mostly because it's cheaper and they aren't aware of the regulations. Some will get away with using 1/2 watt or one that has adjustable power levels but some of these transmitters can be 5-25 watts. I think I still have a higher power one laying around and I would definitely not recommend using something like that, even aside from the legailty. 

Some transmitters have built in antennas and some have external connectors. I haven't used one with a built in antenna but I doubt it would matter much for a parking lot. Having an external antenna gives you the added benefit of moving the antenna closer and higher up but is an added cost as well as an additional piece of equipment to deal with. A simple telescoping antenna gives you the ability to tune it (somewhat) and has worked well for me in the past. 

Depending on the size of your parking area (and how noisy the band is in that area), a decent bluetooth FM transmitter may give you enough coverage. I wouldn't expect these to get much past 50 feet but it may be worth a try since I'm sure these are still readily available. Whichever one you choose, you would want one that could be frequency tuned. One like this (https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Transmitter-Bluetooth-Wireless-Handsfree/dp/B07F5H84HT) that doesn't have the cigarette lighter attachment built in would help in powering it without resorting to a creative solution. You would also need a bluetooth transmitter that could be paired with it to transmit out of your mixer.   As a side note, you wouldn't want the pastor or whoever is speaking to be able to hear the output audio as the delay would be distracting. This is a few moving parts and I don't know how successful it would be but the parts are fairly inexpensive.

Our broadcast FM spectrum around here is pretty congested. Finding a good "open" frequency takes some trial and error. Distant FM signals (that still sound like white noise on your radio) still raise the noise floor so not only finding where there is an open frequency but finding the quietest can take some time. If you have an SDR that you can use to see the spectrum this can be beneficial. You may find some of the quietest spots to be on the edge of the digital sidebands of FM stations that come in pretty clear to that area.

Don't use a portable radio to test with. The sensitivity differences between car and portable receivers vary too much.

If your transmitter has the ability to transmit in mono, doing so may give you better results.

I hope some of these tips help and hopefully you can find the right solution.

Kirt/K7KDW






From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> on behalf of Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io <louis.giliberto@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:13 AM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation
 
Sorry for the multiple responses. I was digging through some notes of mine.

For wifi the easiest solution is Zello. A broadcast room can be made. People would also be able to listen from home that way. If the service provides free wifi no cell data needs to be used.

https://zello.com/



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-------- Original Message --------
On May 7, 2020, 1:09 AM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:

Asking here might be useful as well.

https://www.hobbybroadcaster.net/community/



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-------- Original Message --------
On May 7, 2020, 1:06 AM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:

See if they have inventory direct.

http://www.talkinghouse.com/

You can also find them on eBay a lot.

Lou


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-------- Original Message --------
On May 6, 2020, 9:41 PM, Dan Pflugrath < dpflugrath@...> wrote:

If you can't find inventory for a FM or AM Low power transmitter you might inquire of someone who had one of those huge Christmas light displays that broadcast music with their light show.  Seems like they would not be using it at this time so one may be able to borrow one until you can find inventory.  They might even assist in setup

 

There are suppliers for Christmas Light display components that may be an uncommon source with inventory.

 

Just a suggestion to get up and running

 

73,

Dan KA7GPP

 

.

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io [mailto:snovarc@snovarc.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Amundson
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:06 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io
Subject: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

 

I’m thinking someone from SnoVarc can make suggestions on this request?

 

73,

Robin, WA7CPA 


Begin forwarded message:

From: "George Jones" <georgejones@...>
Date: May 6, 2020 at 7:18:54 PM PDT
To: "'Radio Club of Redmond N7KE'" <rcrr@...>
Subject: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

All,

 

I would like to solicit suggestions/ideas from RCR members on my need to install a AM or FM low-power transmitter at my church in Renton to support “drive-in” service.   I have examined a number of suppliers of low-power Part 15 gear and am finding very little inventory due to recent demand resulting from the Corvid-19 lockdowns.

 

Has anyone had any experience with such devices and using and/or sourcing same.  Any suggestions on alternates to communicating using AM/FM transmission with cars in a parking lot? – using wifi and smartphones has been suggested but I don’t have clear understanding of how to proceed.

 

I recall a project article in Popular Electronics in the 1960’s about building your own unlicensed low-power AM station so the obvious question to all the hams out there – does anyone have any AM/FM low-power transmitter sitting on the shelf that could be borrowed or purchased?

 

Anyway – any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

George Jones

K7GRJ



____________________________________________________________

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Re: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

Kirt White / K7KDW
 

I used to have a part 15 FM transmitter but I got rid of it a while ago. Hopefully some of my experience with using them can help

Some brands may give a discount for a church if you order direct. I'm pretty sure Decade used to. Their transmitters are expensive but are rock solid. This may vary and, depending on your budget, some of these may be out of the question. I also assume most of these companies have back orders now.

Some churches are using non certified transmitters. I assume mostly because it's cheaper and they aren't aware of the regulations. Some will get away with using 1/2 watt or one that has adjustable power levels but some of these transmitters can be 5-25 watts. I think I still have a higher power one laying around and I would definitely not recommend using something like that, even aside from the legailty. 

Some transmitters have built in antennas and some have external connectors. I haven't used one with a built in antenna but I doubt it would matter much for a parking lot. Having an external antenna gives you the added benefit of moving the antenna closer and higher up but is an added cost as well as an additional piece of equipment to deal with. A simple telescoping antenna gives you the ability to tune it (somewhat) and has worked well for me in the past. 

Depending on the size of your parking area (and how noisy the band is in that area), a decent bluetooth FM transmitter may give you enough coverage. I wouldn't expect these to get much past 50 feet but it may be worth a try since I'm sure these are still readily available. Whichever one you choose, you would want one that could be frequency tuned. One like this (https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Transmitter-Bluetooth-Wireless-Handsfree/dp/B07F5H84HT) that doesn't have the cigarette lighter attachment built in would help in powering it without resorting to a creative solution. You would also need a bluetooth transmitter that could be paired with it to transmit out of your mixer.   As a side note, you wouldn't want the pastor or whoever is speaking to be able to hear the output audio as the delay would be distracting. This is a few moving parts and I don't know how successful it would be but the parts are fairly inexpensive.

Our broadcast FM spectrum around here is pretty congested. Finding a good "open" frequency takes some trial and error. Distant FM signals (that still sound like white noise on your radio) still raise the noise floor so not only finding where there is an open frequency but finding the quietest can take some time. If you have an SDR that you can use to see the spectrum this can be beneficial. You may find some of the quietest spots to be on the edge of the digital sidebands of FM stations that come in pretty clear to that area.

Don't use a portable radio to test with. The sensitivity differences between car and portable receivers vary too much.

If your transmitter has the ability to transmit in mono, doing so may give you better results.

I hope some of these tips help and hopefully you can find the right solution.

Kirt/K7KDW






From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> on behalf of Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io <louis.giliberto@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 1:13 AM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation
 
Sorry for the multiple responses. I was digging through some notes of mine.

For wifi the easiest solution is Zello. A broadcast room can be made. People would also be able to listen from home that way. If the service provides free wifi no cell data needs to be used.

https://zello.com/



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-------- Original Message --------
On May 7, 2020, 1:09 AM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:

Asking here might be useful as well.

https://www.hobbybroadcaster.net/community/



Sent from ProtonMail mobile



-------- Original Message --------
On May 7, 2020, 1:06 AM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:

See if they have inventory direct.

http://www.talkinghouse.com/

You can also find them on eBay a lot.

Lou


Sent from ProtonMail mobile



-------- Original Message --------
On May 6, 2020, 9:41 PM, Dan Pflugrath < dpflugrath@...> wrote:

If you can't find inventory for a FM or AM Low power transmitter you might inquire of someone who had one of those huge Christmas light displays that broadcast music with their light show.  Seems like they would not be using it at this time so one may be able to borrow one until you can find inventory.  They might even assist in setup

 

There are suppliers for Christmas Light display components that may be an uncommon source with inventory.

 

Just a suggestion to get up and running

 

73,

Dan KA7GPP

 

.

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io [mailto:snovarc@snovarc.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Amundson
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:06 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io
Subject: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

 

I’m thinking someone from SnoVarc can make suggestions on this request?

 

73,

Robin, WA7CPA 


Begin forwarded message:

From: "George Jones" <georgejones@...>
Date: May 6, 2020 at 7:18:54 PM PDT
To: "'Radio Club of Redmond N7KE'" <rcrr@...>
Subject: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

All,

 

I would like to solicit suggestions/ideas from RCR members on my need to install a AM or FM low-power transmitter at my church in Renton to support “drive-in” service.   I have examined a number of suppliers of low-power Part 15 gear and am finding very little inventory due to recent demand resulting from the Corvid-19 lockdowns.

 

Has anyone had any experience with such devices and using and/or sourcing same.  Any suggestions on alternates to communicating using AM/FM transmission with cars in a parking lot? – using wifi and smartphones has been suggested but I don’t have clear understanding of how to proceed.

 

I recall a project article in Popular Electronics in the 1960’s about building your own unlicensed low-power AM station so the obvious question to all the hams out there – does anyone have any AM/FM low-power transmitter sitting on the shelf that could be borrowed or purchased?

 

Anyway – any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

George Jones

K7GRJ



____________________________________________________________

Top News - Sponsored By Newser


Re: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW)
 

Sorry for the multiple responses. I was digging through some notes of mine.

For wifi the easiest solution is Zello. A broadcast room can be made. People would also be able to listen from home that way. If the service provides free wifi no cell data needs to be used.

https://zello.com/



Sent from ProtonMail mobile



-------- Original Message --------
On May 7, 2020, 1:09 AM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:

Asking here might be useful as well.

https://www.hobbybroadcaster.net/community/



Sent from ProtonMail mobile



-------- Original Message --------
On May 7, 2020, 1:06 AM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:

See if they have inventory direct.

http://www.talkinghouse.com/

You can also find them on eBay a lot.

Lou


Sent from ProtonMail mobile



-------- Original Message --------
On May 6, 2020, 9:41 PM, Dan Pflugrath < dpflugrath@...> wrote:

If you can't find inventory for a FM or AM Low power transmitter you might inquire of someone who had one of those huge Christmas light displays that broadcast music with their light show.  Seems like they would not be using it at this time so one may be able to borrow one until you can find inventory.  They might even assist in setup

 

There are suppliers for Christmas Light display components that may be an uncommon source with inventory.

 

Just a suggestion to get up and running

 

73,

Dan KA7GPP

 

.

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io [mailto:snovarc@snovarc.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Amundson
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:06 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io
Subject: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

 

I’m thinking someone from SnoVarc can make suggestions on this request?

 

73,

Robin, WA7CPA 


Begin forwarded message:

From: "George Jones" <georgejones@...>
Date: May 6, 2020 at 7:18:54 PM PDT
To: "'Radio Club of Redmond N7KE'" <rcrr@...>
Subject: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

All,

 

I would like to solicit suggestions/ideas from RCR members on my need to install a AM or FM low-power transmitter at my church in Renton to support “drive-in” service.   I have examined a number of suppliers of low-power Part 15 gear and am finding very little inventory due to recent demand resulting from the Corvid-19 lockdowns.

 

Has anyone had any experience with such devices and using and/or sourcing same.  Any suggestions on alternates to communicating using AM/FM transmission with cars in a parking lot? – using wifi and smartphones has been suggested but I don’t have clear understanding of how to proceed.

 

I recall a project article in Popular Electronics in the 1960’s about building your own unlicensed low-power AM station so the obvious question to all the hams out there – does anyone have any AM/FM low-power transmitter sitting on the shelf that could be borrowed or purchased?

 

Anyway – any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

George Jones

K7GRJ



____________________________________________________________

Top News - Sponsored By Newser


Re: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW)
 

Asking here might be useful as well.

https://www.hobbybroadcaster.net/community/



Sent from ProtonMail mobile



-------- Original Message --------
On May 7, 2020, 1:06 AM, Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io < louis.giliberto@...> wrote:

See if they have inventory direct.

http://www.talkinghouse.com/

You can also find them on eBay a lot.

Lou


Sent from ProtonMail mobile



-------- Original Message --------
On May 6, 2020, 9:41 PM, Dan Pflugrath < dpflugrath@...> wrote:

If you can't find inventory for a FM or AM Low power transmitter you might inquire of someone who had one of those huge Christmas light displays that broadcast music with their light show.  Seems like they would not be using it at this time so one may be able to borrow one until you can find inventory.  They might even assist in setup

 

There are suppliers for Christmas Light display components that may be an uncommon source with inventory.

 

Just a suggestion to get up and running

 

73,

Dan KA7GPP

 

.

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io [mailto:snovarc@snovarc.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Amundson
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:06 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io
Subject: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

 

I’m thinking someone from SnoVarc can make suggestions on this request?

 

73,

Robin, WA7CPA 


Begin forwarded message:

From: "George Jones" <georgejones@...>
Date: May 6, 2020 at 7:18:54 PM PDT
To: "'Radio Club of Redmond N7KE'" <rcrr@...>
Subject: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

All,

 

I would like to solicit suggestions/ideas from RCR members on my need to install a AM or FM low-power transmitter at my church in Renton to support “drive-in” service.   I have examined a number of suppliers of low-power Part 15 gear and am finding very little inventory due to recent demand resulting from the Corvid-19 lockdowns.

 

Has anyone had any experience with such devices and using and/or sourcing same.  Any suggestions on alternates to communicating using AM/FM transmission with cars in a parking lot? – using wifi and smartphones has been suggested but I don’t have clear understanding of how to proceed.

 

I recall a project article in Popular Electronics in the 1960’s about building your own unlicensed low-power AM station so the obvious question to all the hams out there – does anyone have any AM/FM low-power transmitter sitting on the shelf that could be borrowed or purchased?

 

Anyway – any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

George Jones

K7GRJ



____________________________________________________________

Top News - Sponsored By Newser


Re: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW)
 

See if they have inventory direct.

http://www.talkinghouse.com/

You can also find them on eBay a lot.

Lou


Sent from ProtonMail mobile



-------- Original Message --------
On May 6, 2020, 9:41 PM, Dan Pflugrath < dpflugrath@...> wrote:

If you can't find inventory for a FM or AM Low power transmitter you might inquire of someone who had one of those huge Christmas light displays that broadcast music with their light show.  Seems like they would not be using it at this time so one may be able to borrow one until you can find inventory.  They might even assist in setup

 

There are suppliers for Christmas Light display components that may be an uncommon source with inventory.

 

Just a suggestion to get up and running

 

73,

Dan KA7GPP

 

.

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io [mailto:snovarc@snovarc.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Amundson
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:06 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io
Subject: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

 

I’m thinking someone from SnoVarc can make suggestions on this request?

 

73,

Robin, WA7CPA 


Begin forwarded message:

From: "George Jones" <georgejones@...>
Date: May 6, 2020 at 7:18:54 PM PDT
To: "'Radio Club of Redmond N7KE'" <rcrr@...>
Subject: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

All,

 

I would like to solicit suggestions/ideas from RCR members on my need to install a AM or FM low-power transmitter at my church in Renton to support “drive-in” service.   I have examined a number of suppliers of low-power Part 15 gear and am finding very little inventory due to recent demand resulting from the Corvid-19 lockdowns.

 

Has anyone had any experience with such devices and using and/or sourcing same.  Any suggestions on alternates to communicating using AM/FM transmission with cars in a parking lot? – using wifi and smartphones has been suggested but I don’t have clear understanding of how to proceed.

 

I recall a project article in Popular Electronics in the 1960’s about building your own unlicensed low-power AM station so the obvious question to all the hams out there – does anyone have any AM/FM low-power transmitter sitting on the shelf that could be borrowed or purchased?

 

Anyway – any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

George Jones

K7GRJ



____________________________________________________________

Top News - Sponsored By Newser


Re: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

Dan Pflugrath
 

If you can't find inventory for a FM or AM Low power transmitter you might inquire of someone who had one of those huge Christmas light displays that broadcast music with their light show.  Seems like they would not be using it at this time so one may be able to borrow one until you can find inventory.  They might even assist in setup

 

There are suppliers for Christmas Light display components that may be an uncommon source with inventory.

 

Just a suggestion to get up and running

 

73,

Dan KA7GPP

 

.

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io [mailto:snovarc@snovarc.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robin Amundson
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:06 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io
Subject: [SnoVARC] Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

 

I’m thinking someone from SnoVarc can make suggestions on this request?

 

73,

Robin, WA7CPA 


Begin forwarded message:

From: "George Jones" <georgejones@...>
Date: May 6, 2020 at 7:18:54 PM PDT
To: "'Radio Club of Redmond N7KE'" <rcrr@...>
Subject: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

All,

 

I would like to solicit suggestions/ideas from RCR members on my need to install a AM or FM low-power transmitter at my church in Renton to support “drive-in” service.   I have examined a number of suppliers of low-power Part 15 gear and am finding very little inventory due to recent demand resulting from the Corvid-19 lockdowns.

 

Has anyone had any experience with such devices and using and/or sourcing same.  Any suggestions on alternates to communicating using AM/FM transmission with cars in a parking lot? – using wifi and smartphones has been suggested but I don’t have clear understanding of how to proceed.

 

I recall a project article in Popular Electronics in the 1960’s about building your own unlicensed low-power AM station so the obvious question to all the hams out there – does anyone have any AM/FM low-power transmitter sitting on the shelf that could be borrowed or purchased?

 

Anyway – any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

George Jones

K7GRJ



____________________________________________________________

Top News - Sponsored By Newser


Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

Robin Amundson
 

I’m thinking someone from SnoVarc can make suggestions on this request?

73,
Robin, WA7CPA 


Begin forwarded message:

From: "George Jones" <georgejones@...>
Date: May 6, 2020 at 7:18:54 PM PDT
To: "'Radio Club of Redmond N7KE'" <rcrr@...>
Subject: Advise / Help with FCC Part 15 AM/FM installation

All,

 

I would like to solicit suggestions/ideas from RCR members on my need to install a AM or FM low-power transmitter at my church in Renton to support “drive-in” service.   I have examined a number of suppliers of low-power Part 15 gear and am finding very little inventory due to recent demand resulting from the Corvid-19 lockdowns.

 

Has anyone had any experience with such devices and using and/or sourcing same.  Any suggestions on alternates to communicating using AM/FM transmission with cars in a parking lot? – using wifi and smartphones has been suggested but I don’t have clear understanding of how to proceed.

 

I recall a project article in Popular Electronics in the 1960’s about building your own unlicensed low-power AM station so the obvious question to all the hams out there – does anyone have any AM/FM low-power transmitter sitting on the shelf that could be borrowed or purchased?

 

Anyway – any thoughts would be appreciated.

 

George Jones

K7GRJ


Microhams Digital Conference

Rowland
 

The following is from the Scott Honaker .

"Each year since 2007 the Microsoft Amateur Radio Club (Microhams) has
held a conference with a focus on digital communications.  The
conference offers a variety of topics across a range of skill levels.
Our motto is “Inspire, inform and educate”.  This year is the 13th
annual Microhams Digital Conference.  We have changed directions too
many times to count planning for this year’s conference but we are
determined to provide a great show.

 One of the virtues of going online is that we were able to invite
presenters that would be impractical to bring to the Seattle area.  A
number of presenters will be speaking from the future.  David Rowe, the
author of Codec2 and FreeDV will be speaking live from his home in
Adelaide, Australia.  He's 16 hours 30 minutes ahead of Seattle so it
will be Sunday morning for him.  John Wiseman G8BPQ, the author of BPQ32
will be presenting from the UK and much of the Winlink development team
from all over the US.  This is just a sample and the entire current
agenda can be found at https://www.microhams.com/mhdc/mhdc2020/ (all
times are Pacific Daylight Time).

 The conference can be streamed live directly from YouTube so there can
be an unlimited number of attendees.  This year the conference is
available at no charge but we do request a donation via the web site to
cover our expenses.  There is a chat channel in YouTube to ask questions
and these will be passed to the presenters (who may wait until the end
to respond).  To provide a more interactive experience, there will be a
Zoom breakout room available at the end of the session where the
presenters can hang out and answer questions in person for the next
hour.  Of course, the whole thing will be recorded on YouTube and
available for viewing later if you miss anything.

The links to the stream and Zoom breakout room are being finalized and
will be posted on the MHDC 2020 web site when complete.  All the latest
updates are available at https://www.microhams.com/mhdc/mhdc2020/

See you Saturday!

Scott Honaker, N7SS for the MHDC Team"


Thanks,

Rowland


Re: Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

Tom WA7TBP
 

Mike:

Take a look at Comet Antenna mount, part number CMA-TYANTPE. It uses existing screws in your truck to mount an antenna. I have 4 of them on two of my Ford trucks. I like the mount, especially not having to drill a hole. You will have to find a way to route the cable to the inside of your vehicle, but I am sure there are enough of us at SNOVARC that we can give you a hand.

73 and good luck.

Tom, WA7TBP

In a message dated 5/4/2020 09:03:21 Pacific Standard Time, golferguy02@... writes:

Well, I'm finally getting ready to put a mobile rig into my truck.
I am pretty sure I've settled on a Kenwood TM-V71A. 

I'd love to get your opinions and any pics you want to share about antenna mounting, models and performance you wish to share.

Some details about my rig:
Toyota truck
I use a canopy for several months a year so mounting on the inside edge of the bed rail is not going to work.
I know that a roof mount is probably best for performance, but I'm hesitant to put on there as I'll likely break it off going into the parking garages near work as they have short clearances. (and I'll surely forget to lower it every time).
This is making me think a hood mount is the next best option.  It doesn't necessarily provide the best ground plane.  Does anyone have a hood mounted antenna and do you get "good enough" performance? 

I'm thinking something along the lines of these, but would love feedback or opinions:

Antenna models:




Potential mounting location:  (not my truck) 🙂


Thanks for sharing your opinions and any tips or mistakes to avoid. 

-Mike J
W7GR



Re: Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

Jackson Beard
 


On Mon, May 4, 2020, 09:03 Mike Jacob <golferguy02@...> wrote:
Well, I'm finally getting ready to put a mobile rig into my truck.
I am pretty sure I've settled on a Kenwood TM-V71A. 

I'd love to get your opinions and any pics you want to share about antenna mounting, models and performance you wish to share.

Some details about my rig:
Toyota truck
I use a canopy for several months a year so mounting on the inside edge of the bed rail is not going to work. 
I know that a roof mount is probably best for performance, but I'm hesitant to put on there as I'll likely break it off going into the parking garages near work as they have short clearances. (and I'll surely forget to lower it every time).
This is making me think a hood mount is the next best option.  It doesn't necessarily provide the best ground plane.  Does anyone have a hood mounted antenna and do you get "good enough" performance? 

I'm thinking something along the lines of these, but would love feedback or opinions:

Antenna models:




Potential mounting location:  (not my truck) 🙂


Thanks for sharing your opinions and any tips or mistakes to avoid. 

-Mike J
W7GR



Re: Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

Rowland
 

Here are pics of my F350 and Explorer installs.  They both work great.  I did have a mag mount on p/u for several years but had a tree branch blow it off the top of my truck and destroy it.

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Thanks,

Rowland



On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:06 AM Jason Frazier <frazierjason@...> wrote:
I have my my V/u antenna mounted in the same place, hood next to A-pillar.  Note that if you have a 2015 or newer F-150 you must look for an aluminum bar with isolation washer and special stainless screw, to prevent galvanic corrosion on either the aluminum body or steel frame.  I found mine easily on Amazon.

A-pillar position has worked well for me, certainly better than mag-mounting the same antenna on my other vehicle.

73 de Jason W7DM


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From: Mark McClain <n6oby@...>
Date: 5/4/20 10:44 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

I have also had pretty good luck with front fender/hood mounted antennas. 

 

I did some experimentation on a Chrysler minivan I had many years ago with two different mounts on the drivers side.  One was back close to the column (pillar) and the other was forward near the nose.  My testing showed a noticeable difference between the two and the forward-mounted antenna did better when testing to a repeater that was behind the van.  So you might want to give some consideration to how close to your pillar it is mounted.

 

Mark

 

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackson Beard via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 9:07 AM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

 

I use a hood mount designed for my Ram, and it works just fine. I can hit the repeater from Skagit and Lewis counties.

 

They make a hood mount for your truck too.

 

On Mon, May 4, 2020, 09:03 Mike Jacob <golferguy02@...> wrote:

Well, I'm finally getting ready to put a mobile rig into my truck.

I am pretty sure I've settled on a Kenwood TM-V71A. 

I'd love to get your opinions and any pics you want to share about antenna mounting, models and performance you wish to share.

Some details about my rig:
Toyota truck

I use a canopy for several months a year so mounting on the inside edge of the bed rail is not going to work. 

I know that a roof mount is probably best for performance, but I'm hesitant to put on there as I'll likely break it off going into the parking garages near work as they have short clearances. (and I'll surely forget to lower it every time).
This is making me think a hood mount is the next best option.  It doesn't necessarily provide the best ground plane.  Does anyone have a hood mounted antenna and do you get "good enough" performance? 

I'm thinking something along the lines of these, but would love feedback or opinions:

Antenna models:


 


Potential mounting location:  (not my truck) 🙂

 

 

Thanks for sharing your opinions and any tips or mistakes to avoid. 

-Mike J
W7GR

 

 


Re: Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

Jason Frazier
 

I have my my V/u antenna mounted in the same place, hood next to A-pillar.  Note that if you have a 2015 or newer F-150 you must look for an aluminum bar with isolation washer and special stainless screw, to prevent galvanic corrosion on either the aluminum body or steel frame.  I found mine easily on Amazon.

A-pillar position has worked well for me, certainly better than mag-mounting the same antenna on my other vehicle.

73 de Jason W7DM


-------- Original message --------
From: Mark McClain <n6oby@...>
Date: 5/4/20 10:44 (GMT-08:00)
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

I have also had pretty good luck with front fender/hood mounted antennas. 

 

I did some experimentation on a Chrysler minivan I had many years ago with two different mounts on the drivers side.  One was back close to the column (pillar) and the other was forward near the nose.  My testing showed a noticeable difference between the two and the forward-mounted antenna did better when testing to a repeater that was behind the van.  So you might want to give some consideration to how close to your pillar it is mounted.

 

Mark

 

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackson Beard via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 9:07 AM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

 

I use a hood mount designed for my Ram, and it works just fine. I can hit the repeater from Skagit and Lewis counties.

 

They make a hood mount for your truck too.

 

On Mon, May 4, 2020, 09:03 Mike Jacob <golferguy02@...> wrote:

Well, I'm finally getting ready to put a mobile rig into my truck.

I am pretty sure I've settled on a Kenwood TM-V71A. 

I'd love to get your opinions and any pics you want to share about antenna mounting, models and performance you wish to share.

Some details about my rig:
Toyota truck

I use a canopy for several months a year so mounting on the inside edge of the bed rail is not going to work. 

I know that a roof mount is probably best for performance, but I'm hesitant to put on there as I'll likely break it off going into the parking garages near work as they have short clearances. (and I'll surely forget to lower it every time).
This is making me think a hood mount is the next best option.  It doesn't necessarily provide the best ground plane.  Does anyone have a hood mounted antenna and do you get "good enough" performance? 

I'm thinking something along the lines of these, but would love feedback or opinions:

Antenna models:


 


Potential mounting location:  (not my truck) 🙂

 

 

Thanks for sharing your opinions and any tips or mistakes to avoid. 

-Mike J
W7GR

 

 


Re: Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

Mark McClain
 

I have also had pretty good luck with front fender/hood mounted antennas. 

 

I did some experimentation on a Chrysler minivan I had many years ago with two different mounts on the drivers side.  One was back close to the column (pillar) and the other was forward near the nose.  My testing showed a noticeable difference between the two and the forward-mounted antenna did better when testing to a repeater that was behind the van.  So you might want to give some consideration to how close to your pillar it is mounted.

 

Mark

 

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackson Beard via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 9:07 AM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

 

I use a hood mount designed for my Ram, and it works just fine. I can hit the repeater from Skagit and Lewis counties.

 

They make a hood mount for your truck too.

 

On Mon, May 4, 2020, 09:03 Mike Jacob <golferguy02@...> wrote:

Well, I'm finally getting ready to put a mobile rig into my truck.

I am pretty sure I've settled on a Kenwood TM-V71A. 

I'd love to get your opinions and any pics you want to share about antenna mounting, models and performance you wish to share.

Some details about my rig:
Toyota truck

I use a canopy for several months a year so mounting on the inside edge of the bed rail is not going to work. 

I know that a roof mount is probably best for performance, but I'm hesitant to put on there as I'll likely break it off going into the parking garages near work as they have short clearances. (and I'll surely forget to lower it every time).
This is making me think a hood mount is the next best option.  It doesn't necessarily provide the best ground plane.  Does anyone have a hood mounted antenna and do you get "good enough" performance? 

I'm thinking something along the lines of these, but would love feedback or opinions:

Antenna models:


 


Potential mounting location:  (not my truck) 🙂

 

 

Thanks for sharing your opinions and any tips or mistakes to avoid. 

-Mike J
W7GR

 

 


Re: Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

Jackson Beard
 

I use a hood mount designed for my Ram, and it works just fine. I can hit the repeater from Skagit and Lewis counties.

They make a hood mount for your truck too.

On Mon, May 4, 2020, 09:03 Mike Jacob <golferguy02@...> wrote:
Well, I'm finally getting ready to put a mobile rig into my truck.
I am pretty sure I've settled on a Kenwood TM-V71A. 

I'd love to get your opinions and any pics you want to share about antenna mounting, models and performance you wish to share.

Some details about my rig:
Toyota truck
I use a canopy for several months a year so mounting on the inside edge of the bed rail is not going to work. 
I know that a roof mount is probably best for performance, but I'm hesitant to put on there as I'll likely break it off going into the parking garages near work as they have short clearances. (and I'll surely forget to lower it every time).
This is making me think a hood mount is the next best option.  It doesn't necessarily provide the best ground plane.  Does anyone have a hood mounted antenna and do you get "good enough" performance? 

I'm thinking something along the lines of these, but would love feedback or opinions:

Antenna models:




Potential mounting location:  (not my truck) 🙂


Thanks for sharing your opinions and any tips or mistakes to avoid. 

-Mike J
W7GR



Re: Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

Rowland
 

My antenna is mounted like the one in the picture. On hood drivers side. The difficulty is getting coax through fire wall unless you have a pass through hole already there.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 9:03 AM Mike Jacob <golferguy02@...> wrote:
Well, I'm finally getting ready to put a mobile rig into my truck.
I am pretty sure I've settled on a Kenwood TM-V71A. 

I'd love to get your opinions and any pics you want to share about antenna mounting, models and performance you wish to share.

Some details about my rig:
Toyota truck
I use a canopy for several months a year so mounting on the inside edge of the bed rail is not going to work. 
I know that a roof mount is probably best for performance, but I'm hesitant to put on there as I'll likely break it off going into the parking garages near work as they have short clearances. (and I'll surely forget to lower it every time).
This is making me think a hood mount is the next best option.  It doesn't necessarily provide the best ground plane.  Does anyone have a hood mounted antenna and do you get "good enough" performance? 

I'm thinking something along the lines of these, but would love feedback or opinions:

Antenna models:




Potential mounting location:  (not my truck) 🙂


Thanks for sharing your opinions and any tips or mistakes to avoid. 

-Mike J
W7GR


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Thanks,
Rowland


Mobile rig antennas - advice and tips welcomed

Mike Jacob
 

Well, I'm finally getting ready to put a mobile rig into my truck.
I am pretty sure I've settled on a Kenwood TM-V71A. 

I'd love to get your opinions and any pics you want to share about antenna mounting, models and performance you wish to share.

Some details about my rig:
Toyota truck
I use a canopy for several months a year so mounting on the inside edge of the bed rail is not going to work. 
I know that a roof mount is probably best for performance, but I'm hesitant to put on there as I'll likely break it off going into the parking garages near work as they have short clearances. (and I'll surely forget to lower it every time).
This is making me think a hood mount is the next best option.  It doesn't necessarily provide the best ground plane.  Does anyone have a hood mounted antenna and do you get "good enough" performance? 

I'm thinking something along the lines of these, but would love feedback or opinions:

Antenna models:




Potential mounting location:  (not my truck) 🙂


Thanks for sharing your opinions and any tips or mistakes to avoid. 

-Mike J
W7GR



Re: Antenna Tuner or Tune an Antenna with an Analyzer?

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

I would say it depends.  If it’s a single band antenna I say tune the antenna for best match across the band or at the frequency of concern, and if the SWR is still too high at the point of resonance, build a transformer into the feedline to get close to 1:1.

If you want to use the same antenna on multiple bands, a tuner is darn useful.  My two HF radios both have very capable built in auto tuners, and I’ve used my OCFD on bands where it would otherwise be unusable.


-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On May 3, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

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Re: Antenna Tuner or Tune an Antenna with an Analyzer?

Jackson Beard
 

Tuner provides multiple band use.


On Sun, May 3, 2020, 14:44 Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:
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Antenna Tuner or Tune an Antenna with an Analyzer?

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

What say you?
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WA1HEM
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