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Re: Next club meeting is October 1. Business 6:15. Elmer 7 p.m.

Robin Amundson
 

Link is on SnoVarc website. Howard usually does reminder post here.


On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 7:49 AM Ken Kosters <kenkosters@...> wrote:
Link to zoom meeting please.

Thanks

Ken

On Sep 21, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:

Hi All,
As our club is oriented toward disaster preparedness, our October 1 Elmer session will be how to prevent ham radio tower climbing disasters, of which there are too many, mostly preventable. Our presenter K1IR will be presenting from the East Coast, so it will be 10 p.m. for him. It would be awesome if we could get 20+ in our Zoom audience to make this worthwhile for Jim's time. I recently saw his presentation on another Zoom meeting and it was jaw-dropping for everyone. It stoked an additional hour of conversation after Jim left the meeting. That good. PLEASE reserve this time on your calendar. Invite anyone you know outside the club who might be taking down a tower or putting up a tower or who is an observer on the ground. Jim is on a mission for no more amateur radio tower climbing fatalities.

ELMER SESSION for October 1st Meeting:

Even if you never climb a tower, some time a ham friend may. Jim Idelson, K1IR, will empower you with the information you need as an on-the-ground observer/helper to say STOP when something does not look right. There have been too many avoidable amateur radio tower climbing accidents and deaths. Jim did extensive research on the matter, subsequently founding Zero Falls Alliance, https://zerofalls.org/. He discovered underlying causes and actionable preventive measures to amateur radio tower climbing accidents and fatalities. His deftly delivered presentations are shocking, riveting, and potentially life-saving. That is the point.. 


Thank you and 73,
Robin Amundson, WA7CPA


Re: Next club meeting is October 1. Business 6:15. Elmer 7 p.m.

Ken Kosters
 

Link to zoom meeting please.

Thanks

Ken

On Sep 21, 2020, at 5:51 PM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:

Hi All,
As our club is oriented toward disaster preparedness, our October 1 Elmer session will be how to prevent ham radio tower climbing disasters, of which there are too many, mostly preventable. Our presenter K1IR will be presenting from the East Coast, so it will be 10 p.m. for him. It would be awesome if we could get 20+ in our Zoom audience to make this worthwhile for Jim's time. I recently saw his presentation on another Zoom meeting and it was jaw-dropping for everyone. It stoked an additional hour of conversation after Jim left the meeting. That good. PLEASE reserve this time on your calendar. Invite anyone you know outside the club who might be taking down a tower or putting up a tower or who is an observer on the ground. Jim is on a mission for no more amateur radio tower climbing fatalities.

ELMER SESSION for October 1st Meeting:

Even if you never climb a tower, some time a ham friend may. Jim Idelson, K1IR, will empower you with the information you need as an on-the-ground observer/helper to say STOP when something does not look right. There have been too many avoidable amateur radio tower climbing accidents and deaths. Jim did extensive research on the matter, subsequently founding Zero Falls Alliance, https://zerofalls.org/. He discovered underlying causes and actionable preventive measures to amateur radio tower climbing accidents and fatalities. His deftly delivered presentations are shocking, riveting, and potentially life-saving. That is the point.. 


Thank you and 73,
Robin Amundson, WA7CPA


Next club meeting is October 1. Business 6:15. Elmer 7 p.m.

Robin Amundson
 

Hi All,
As our club is oriented toward disaster preparedness, our October 1 Elmer session will be how to prevent ham radio tower climbing disasters, of which there are too many, mostly preventable. Our presenter K1IR will be presenting from the East Coast, so it will be 10 p.m. for him. It would be awesome if we could get 20+ in our Zoom audience to make this worthwhile for Jim's time. I recently saw his presentation on another Zoom meeting and it was jaw-dropping for everyone. It stoked an additional hour of conversation after Jim left the meeting. That good. PLEASE reserve this time on your calendar. Invite anyone you know outside the club who might be taking down a tower or putting up a tower or who is an observer on the ground. Jim is on a mission for no more amateur radio tower climbing fatalities.

ELMER SESSION for October 1st Meeting:

Even if you never climb a tower, some time a ham friend may. Jim Idelson, K1IR, will empower you with the information you need as an on-the-ground observer/helper to say STOP when something does not look right. There have been too many avoidable amateur radio tower climbing accidents and deaths. Jim did extensive research on the matter, subsequently founding Zero Falls Alliance, https://zerofalls.org/. He discovered underlying causes and actionable preventive measures to amateur radio tower climbing accidents and fatalities. His deftly delivered presentations are shocking, riveting, and potentially life-saving. That is the point.. 


Thank you and 73,
Robin Amundson, WA7CPA


Re: Jim, W7ABD

Rowland
 

Thanks Ralph and Tom.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 7:35 PM Tom WA7TBP via groups.io <tomwa7tbp=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:




Hello everyone:



It was good to hear all the positive remembrances about Jim last night at net. Ralph, thank you for doing the last call for him. It was very moving.


 


This afternoon, Jim's wife, Jo-Anne, called me. She appreciated the flowers sent to her from SNOVARC. (Lindy prepared and coordinated the order and delivery of the flowers.) Jo-Anne has family with her now, and they are helping her through this difficult time. Jim will be cremated and there will be a private family gathering after the cremation. At this point, the funeral home doing the cremation and service can only hold 15 people. Jo-Anne is originally from the Philippines. They have a tradition to honor a person 1 year after their passing. She hopes to have a larger memorial one year from now. 


 


I described the Thursday night net and the remembrances expressed by those participating in the net. She was very moved by the final call. She went on to describe how important SNOVARC was to Jim, and how he loved the interactions with all the members of the club. She described how much he enjoyed doing projects for the club. She thanked everyone for the friendship shared with Jim.


 


If any other information comes along, I will be sure to pas it on.


 


73,


 


Tom


 


 


 














--
Thanks,
Rowland


Hot Spot options: Zoom meeting invitation 1800 today

Robin Amundson
 

I wanted to invite everyone to join an educational series provided by Puget Sound DMR Coalition surrounding hot spots. Tonight, September 19th at 18:00 PST is the second session of four with a topic of:

What are my options for a hot spot.” Presented by Rob (N7QT) of the Western Washington DX Club and DXexpeditioner.

 

This session is being held on Zoom. The presentation will last about an hour and we will leave the session up with plenty of time to ask questions.

 

The series schedule will be as follows:

September 12th, 18:00 PST  (1 Hour)– What is a Hot Spot, and why do I want or need one? Presenter: Michael Ricky AF6FB

September 19th, 18:00 PST (1-2 Hours) – What are my options for a Hot Spot(s)? Presenter: Rob Fanfant N7QT

 

To be announced: The following are tentative.

September 26th, 18:00 PST (1-3 Hours) – Now that I own one, how do I build and configure it? Presenter: Jamie Hughes WA7JH and Team

October 3rd, 18:00 (1-2 Hours) – What are some of the advanced features and how do I configure those? Presenter: Michael Ricky AF6FB and Team

 

We even have a prize from C4Labs of Tacoma Washington as a giveaway.

 

 

73,

 

Jamie Hughes

WA7JH

Founder

Email: wa7jh@...

Phone: (360) 362-4575

Puget Sound Digital Mobile Radio Coalition

 

 


Jim, W7ABD

Tom WA7TBP
 

Hello everyone:

It was good to hear all the positive remembrances about Jim last night at net. Ralph, thank you for doing the last call for him. It was very moving.
 
This afternoon, Jim's wife, Jo-Anne, called me. She appreciated the flowers sent to her from SNOVARC. (Lindy prepared and coordinated the order and delivery of the flowers.) Jo-Anne has family with her now, and they are helping her through this difficult time. Jim will be cremated and there will be a private family gathering after the cremation. At this point, the funeral home doing the cremation and service can only hold 15 people. Jo-Anne is originally from the Philippines. They have a tradition to honor a person 1 year after their passing. She hopes to have a larger memorial one year from now. 
 
I described the Thursday night net and the remembrances expressed by those participating in the net. She was very moved by the final call. She went on to describe how important SNOVARC was to Jim, and how he loved the interactions with all the members of the club. She described how much he enjoyed doing projects for the club. She thanked everyone for the friendship shared with Jim.
 
If any other information comes along, I will be sure to pas it on.
 
73,
 
Tom
 
 
 


Re: Radio club radios

Dale Smith
 

Well, I’m going to be at hunting camp and wanted to do something other than VHF.  I will probably wait until I pass my general late this year or early the next.

 

I was unaware 6M was best during June. Are the other bands affected by seasons?

 

Regards,

Dale Smith

425-686-9304

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dalegsmith

KJ7GHU

 

"Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice."

- American author, historian and philosopher Will Durant

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robin Amundson
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 6:36 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Radio club radios

 

Dale,
As far as I know the Board has not set a specific policy about borrowing club equipment except that currently it is not inventoried and is to be used at the shack for now...

As for 6m, I'm not sure that sounds like a lot of fun this month. June is a much better 6m month, unless maybe you are talking FM for an activation and let people know??

Surprised no responses yet...?

73,
Robin, WA7CPA


Please get on the repeater at 7 p.m. and 8 p.m.

Robin Amundson
 

Even if you have never participated in the Rookie Roundtable at 7 p.m., please at least check in to honor our Jim, W7ABD (sk). 441.825.

Also, please drive somewhere if you have to to get propagation into the check-in at 8 p.m. for a Last Call for Jim. 

Thank you.

73,
Robin, WA7CPA


Re: Radio club radios

Robin Amundson
 

Dale,
As far as I know the Board has not set a specific policy about borrowing club equipment except that currently it is not inventoried and is to be used at the shack for now...

As for 6m, I'm not sure that sounds like a lot of fun this month. June is a much better 6m month, unless maybe you are talking FM for an activation and let people know??

Surprised no responses yet...?

73,
Robin, WA7CPA


Radio club radios

Dale Smith
 

Does the club have radios, antennas, and the other accoutrements of RF coms one might borrow? If all goes well I’ll be WSW of Naches, Washington at about 4000 feet and I thought it might be fun to try the 6M band.

 

Do we have such equipment and what would the fee be?

 

Regards,

Dale Smith

425-686-9304

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dalegsmith

KJ7GHU

 

"Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice."

- American author, historian and philosopher Will Durant

 


ARLB023 Northern Florida ARES Requests Clear Frequencies for HF Nets

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

fyi

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

Begin forwarded message:

From: "ARRL Web site" <memberlist@...>
Subject: ARLB023 Northern Florida ARES Requests Clear Frequencies for HF Nets
Date: September 16, 2020 at 12:58:46 PM PDT

SB QST @ ARL $ARLB023
ARLB023 Northern Florida ARES Requests Clear Frequencies for HF Nets

ZCZC AG23
QST de W1AW  
ARRL Bulletin 23  ARLB023
From ARRL Headquarters  
Newington CT  September 16, 2020
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB023
ARLB023 Northern Florida ARES Requests Clear Frequencies for HF Nets

Northern Florida Section Emergency Coordinator Karl Martin, K4HBN,
is requesting that stations not directly involved in the Amateur
Radio Emergency Service (ARES) response to Hurricane Sally please
avoid 3.950 MHz (primary) and 7.242 MHz (backup).

ARES has activated in four Northern Florida counties. Shelters are
open, and power and telecommunications outages are widespread,
Martin reports.
NNNN
/EX


Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

I’m pretty sure it should be possible to do VARA FM WIDE on an FTM-400D.  The connector on the back of the radio includes the right signals but for reasons known only to Yaesu does not use a 6 pin mini-din but instead a 9 pin mini-din with other signals added in.  So you’d need to build a cable from 6 pin mini-din to 9-pin Yaesu format mini-din.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 16, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

Good Point Shawn. I should try it with my FT991a

On Sep 15, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

the nice part is that the DRA-50 is NOT radio specific, and at some point you may have additional radios that are compatible with wide mode.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 9/15/2020 7:25 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM wrote:
Well that’s too bad - I guess I jumped the gun on the DRA-50  ☹

Thanks for investigating...

-----Original Message-----
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn / K7ATA
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:40 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes

so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface.
Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
Yes.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...
<mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:

Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?


On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...
<mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:

 Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode.  I suspect
that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput
way back.

Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard
is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode.  So I expect that’s
what is going on.

Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you
the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode
either.  So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.
 (although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).


-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
<wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:

Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:

1) Image attached to an email
2) Large Text Email

The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both
Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS
station has a maximum file size that I exceeded The second email
test was with a multipage text-based email.

Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I
ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as  fast as Wide:

NARROW:
*** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357,  Time: 00:19,  bytes/minute:
2628*6
   FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
*** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min;   1 Min
Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min

WIDE MODE:
*** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343,  Time: 01:30,  bytes/minute: 5503*
   FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
*** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min;   1 Min Peak
Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min



--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************













***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************


Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

Good Point Shawn. I should try it with my FT991a

On Sep 15, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:

the nice part is that the DRA-50 is NOT radio specific, and at some point you may have additional radios that are compatible with wide mode.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 9/15/2020 7:25 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM wrote:
Well that’s too bad - I guess I jumped the gun on the DRA-50  ☹

Thanks for investigating...

-----Original Message-----
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn / K7ATA
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:40 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes

so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface.
Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
Yes.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...
<mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:

Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?


On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...
<mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:

 Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode.  I suspect
that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput
way back.

Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard
is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode.  So I expect that’s
what is going on.

Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you
the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode
either.  So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.
 (although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).


-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
<wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:

Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:

1) Image attached to an email
2) Large Text Email

The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both
Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS
station has a maximum file size that I exceeded The second email
test was with a multipage text-based email.

Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I
ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as  fast as Wide:

NARROW:
*** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357,  Time: 00:19,  bytes/minute:
2628*6
   FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
*** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min;   1 Min
Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min

WIDE MODE:
*** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343,  Time: 01:30,  bytes/minute: 5503*
   FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
*** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min;   1 Min Peak
Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min



--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************













***********************************
Howard Mahran
(425) 864-5104
***********************************





--
*************************
Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
*************************


Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes

Rowland
 

I just ordered the 36.  Am I good with that choice?



Thanks,

Rowland



On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:25 PM Shawn / K7ATA <shawn@...> wrote:
the nice part is that the DRA-50 is NOT radio specific, and at some
point you may have additional radios that are compatible with wide mode.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 9/15/2020 7:25 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM wrote:
> Well that’s too bad - I guess I jumped the gun on the DRA-50  ☹
>
> Thanks for investigating...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn / K7ATA
> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:40 PM
> To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes
>
> so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface.
> Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that.
>
> --Shawn
> --K7ATA
>
> On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
>> Yes.
>>
>> -p W7PFB
>> 73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...
>>> <mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...
>>> <mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode.  I suspect
>>> that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput
>>> way back.
>>>
>>> Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard
>>> is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode.  So I expect that’s
>>> what is going on.
>>>
>>> Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you
>>> the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode
>>> either.  So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.
>>>   (although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).
>>>
>>>
>>> -p W7PFB
>>> 73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!
>>>
>>>> On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
>>>> <wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Image attached to an email
>>>> 2) Large Text Email
>>>>
>>>> The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both
>>>> Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS
>>>> station has a maximum file size that I exceeded The second email
>>>> test was with a multipage text-based email.
>>>>
>>>> Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I
>>>> ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as  fast as Wide:
>>>>
>>>> NARROW:
>>>> *** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
>>>> *** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357,  Time: 00:19,  bytes/minute:
>>>> 2628*6
>>>>     FQ
>>>> *** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
>>>> *** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min;   1 Min
>>>> Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min
>>>>
>>>> WIDE MODE:
>>>> *** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
>>>> *** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343,  Time: 01:30,  bytes/minute: 5503*
>>>>     FQ
>>>> *** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
>>>> *** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min;   1 Min Peak
>>>> Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *************************
>>>> Howard E. Mahran
>>>> WA1HEM
>>>> (425) 864 - 5104
>>>> *************************
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes

Shawn / K7ATA
 

the nice part is that the DRA-50 is NOT radio specific, and at some point you may have additional radios that are compatible with wide mode.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 9/15/2020 7:25 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM wrote:
Well that’s too bad - I guess I jumped the gun on the DRA-50 ☹

Thanks for investigating...

-----Original Message-----
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn / K7ATA
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:40 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes

so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface.
Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
Yes.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...
<mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:

Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?


On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...
<mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:

 Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode. I suspect
that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput
way back.

Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard
is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode. So I expect that’s
what is going on.

Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you
the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode
either. So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.
(although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).


-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
<wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:

Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:

1) Image attached to an email
2) Large Text Email

The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both
Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS
station has a maximum file size that I exceeded The second email
test was with a multipage text-based email.

Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I
ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as fast as Wide:

NARROW:
*** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357, Time: 00:19, bytes/minute:
2628*6
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
*** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min; 1 Min
Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min

WIDE MODE:
*** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343, Time: 01:30, bytes/minute: 5503*
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
*** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min; 1 Min Peak
Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min



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Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

Well that’s too bad - I guess I jumped the gun on the DRA-50 ☹

Thanks for investigating...

-----Original Message-----
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn / K7ATA
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:40 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes

so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface.
Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
Yes.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...
<mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:

Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?


On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...
<mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:

 Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode. I suspect
that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput
way back.

Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard
is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode. So I expect that’s
what is going on.

Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you
the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode
either. So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.
(although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).


-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
<wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:

Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:

1) Image attached to an email
2) Large Text Email

The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both
Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS
station has a maximum file size that I exceeded The second email
test was with a multipage text-based email.

Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I
ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as fast as Wide:

NARROW:
*** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357, Time: 00:19, bytes/minute:
2628*6
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
*** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min; 1 Min
Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min

WIDE MODE:
*** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343, Time: 01:30, bytes/minute: 5503*
FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
*** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min; 1 Min Peak
Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min



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WA1HEM
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WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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Re: W7PFB-10 Winlink RMS changes

Shawn / K7ATA
 

so I did some research on this, and the data port on the ic9700 is connected pre-discriminator, as is the internal soundcard interface. Unfortunately, nobody has documented a modification to change that.

--Shawn
--K7ATA

On 9/13/2020 3:53 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
Yes.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@... <mailto:pezoba@...>> wrote:

Paul, are you referring to the internal sound card in the 9700?


On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@... <mailto:w7pfb@...>> wrote:

 Yeah, there’s something going wrong with the wide mode.  I suspect that it gets huge error rates in wide mode, which cuts the thruput way back.

Doing some research it seems the bandwidth of the internal soundcard is limited to 2.5khz, not enough for wide mode.  So I expect that’s what is going on.

Even worse, apparently the 6 pin mini-din connector does not give you the access points in the audio chain that you need to do wide mode either.  So you can’t even use an external sound card to do it.  (although I think some experimenting is in order to verify that).


-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Sep 13, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@... <mailto:wa1hem@...>> wrote:

Just attempted 2 tests using 2 separate larger file types:

1) Image attached to an email
2) Large Text Email

The first email with the image file attached was rejected in both Narrow and Wide mode. Maybe it was too big to send or the RMS station has a maximum file size that I exceeded
The second email test was with a multipage text-based email.

Results are even more dramatic versus the first tests that you and I ran. Narrow was *over FIVE times* as  fast as Wide:

NARROW:
*** Completed send of message KUZD9IEXAAX3
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8357,  Time: 00:19,  bytes/minute: 2628*6
   FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:26:03
*** Session: *0.6 min*; Avg Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min;   1 Min Peak Throughput: 14998 Bytes/min

WIDE MODE:
*** Completed send of message PIIWPT10E4ES
*** Sent 1 message. *Bytes: 8343,  Time: 01:30,  bytes/minute: 5503*
   FQ
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: W7PFB-10 @ 2020/09/13 22:31:45
*** Session: *1.7 min*; Avg Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min;   1 Min Peak Throughput: 4814 Bytes/min



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WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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Re: Reminder: Hot spot education series starts at 6:00 p.m. tonight, Saturday.

Paul Zoba
 

Where can I find the recording of the event?


On Sep 12, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Robin Amundson <wa7cpa@...> wrote:



Reminder: Hot Spot Education Series - Session #1:“What is a Hot Spot & why might I want one.”

When: Saturday, 12 September 2020, 6:00pm to 7:00pm, (GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZwkd-qqqT8pHtJKj6_SMk90Ym61HOcxvcg8

View Event

Organizer: Jamie WA7JH wa7jh@... 3603624575

Description:

Good Evening,

 

I wanted to invite everyone to join a educational series surrounding hot spots with the first session this Saturday, September 12th, at 18:00 PST.

Michael Ricky, AF6FB, of California’s largest amateur radio club, the Papa System, and host of the DMR Round Table, will be presenting,

What is a Hot Spot & why might I want one.”

This session is being held on Zoom and will last about an hour.

 

The series schedule will be as follows:

September 12th, 18:00 PST  (1 Hour)– What is a Hot Spot, and why do I want or need one? Presenter: Michael Ricky AF6FB

September 19th, 18:00 PST (1-2 Hours) – What are my options for a Hot Spot(s)? Presenter: Rob Fanfant N7QT

 

To be announced: The following are tentative.

September 26th, 18:00 PST (1-3 Hours) – Now that I own one, how do I build and configure it? Presenter: Jamie Hughes WA7JH and Team

October 3rd, 18:00 (1-2 Hours) – What are some of the advanced features and how do I configure those? Presenter: Michael Ricky AF6FB and Team

 

We even have a prize from C4Labs of Tacoma Washington as a giveaway.

 

To join, register here:  https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZwkd-qqqT8pHtJKj6_SMk90Ym61HOcxvcg8

 

Hope to see you there!

 

73,

 

Jamie Hughes

WA7JH

Founder

Email: wa7jh@...

Phone: (360) 362-4575

Puget Sound Digital Mobile Radio Coalition


Re: gmail Backup

Rowland
 

Still anxiously awaiting your call when you get a chance.


Thanks,

Rowland



On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 7:59 PM Lou Giliberto (KD7HCW) via groups.io <louis.giliberto=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hey Rowland,

I'll give you a call tomorrow (Monday).  Didn't have time today, sorry.

-Lou


Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.


Re: Tarheel

Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

I haven’t had any issues.

On Sep 14, 2020, at 5:35 PM, Rowland <rowland.brasch@...> wrote:


Do these affect the SWR on the antenna.


Thanks,

Rowland



On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 7:30 PM Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

 

These are the brand I use. They are durable and have worked well for me. I use them on my the Tarheel base, plus on the various antennas I use with it..

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UTQUAK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

From: Rowland
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 7:21 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Tarheel

 

Please tell me about it.

 

On Sun, Sep 13, 2020 at 7:19 PM Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

That’s Awesome Rowland!

 

Have you considered getting a quick release for the Tarheel so you can remove easity it to keep it safe, etc?

 

Nice work!

 

Howard

 

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rowland
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2020 6:30 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: [SnoVARC] Tarheel

 

Look what I installed today.  My Tarheel II. Going to route the wires up to the radio  tomorrow that is under my front seat. I have the optional cooling fan so it will not get too warm under there.  Hopefully there is enough room.  Also using the Turbo Tuner auto that was designed just for the IC-7000 (my radio).

 

All this equipment has been in storage since I sold my last work van 4 years ago.  Looking forward to getting everything operational tomorrow.

 

I remember the van had some white noise when running (not alternator) and I was advised by George to install ground straps on the liftgate, hood, and exhaust system. Hopefully that noise won't be in this vehicle ('16 Ford Explorer) but we will see.

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 


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Thanks,
Rowland

 


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WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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