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Re: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Re: 2017 ARRL Field Day is June 24-25

John Lento <john.lento@...>
 

I am all in.  Let me know what you need.

On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:14 AM, k7add@... [KE7GFZ] <KE7GFZ@...> wrote:
 

Haven't heard from anyone on this.  We're just under a month away and should get some planning completed soon!


Again, willing to elmer on the process.  Field Day is a great opportunity to get experience planning for an atypical HF setup.  This is very similar planning an emergency deployment or DXPedition.

If you'd like to help out, please let me know.  You can either reply to this thread or directly to me at k7add@...

73, k7add




Re: 2017 ARRL Field Day is June 24-25

Bengt-Erik Norum
 

Haven't heard from anyone on this.  We're just under a month away and should get some planning completed soon!

Again, willing to elmer on the process.  Field Day is a great opportunity to get experience planning for an atypical HF setup.  This is very similar planning an emergency deployment or DXPedition.

If you'd like to help out, please let me know.  You can either reply to this thread or directly to me at k7add@...

73, k7add

SnoVARC weekly Net on Club Repeaters, Thursday, 25 May 2017

KE7GFZ@...
 

"SnoVARC weekly Net on Club Repeaters" reminder
When
Thursday, 25 May 2017
08:00 PM to 08:30 PM
(GMT) Monrovia / Reykjavik
Notes
Net meets on the Club Repeater. 441.825 + shift w/tone 103.5 If the 441 repeater fails then go to one of the following repeaters: Duvall: 443.250 + shift w/tone 103.5 Carnation: 145.590 no shift w/ tone 103.5 If Repeater(s) fail then we go to 145.590 simplex. Be sure and check the Net Controllers list as it might be your turn to run the Net! Note: There will be no Net on the first Thursday of the month as that is meeting night.
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SnoVARC weekly Net on Club Repeaters, Thursday, 25 May 2017

KE7GFZ@...
 

"SnoVARC weekly Net on Club Repeaters" reminder
When
Thursday, 25 May 2017
08:00 PM to 08:30 PM
(GMT) Monrovia / Reykjavik
Notes
Net meets on the Club Repeater. 441.825 + shift w/tone 103.5 If the 441 repeater fails then go to one of the following repeaters: Duvall: 443.250 + shift w/tone 103.5 Carnation: 145.590 no shift w/ tone 103.5 If Repeater(s) fail then we go to 145.590 simplex. Be sure and check the Net Controllers list as it might be your turn to run the Net! Note: There will be no Net on the first Thursday of the month as that is meeting night.
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Re: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) RE: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Re: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Allocated frequency use?

Bengt-Erik Norum
 

Actually, a transmission centered on 5.925 GHz _isn't_ allowed, as the transmission would extend beyond the upper bound of the amateur allocation.  As I said, "all of your transmission must be within the band allocation that you are legally allowed to use."

I've been looking at ImmersionRC (FatShark compatible), which seems to do this legally, up to 600mW.

73, K7ADD

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Mark Kenworthy mark@... [KE7GFZ] <KE7GFZ@...> wrote:
 

Okay, I can see where what you suggest makes sense, but I would expect that to be codified somewhere, but I can’t find anything beyond what you copied below, which isn’t very definitive on what is allowed and not allowed.  One way it could be read is that if we’re transmitting on 5.925 GHz and not causing any interference with other licensed use, we’re fine.  So, I’d like to find actual code on what is legal vs not.  We currently transmit at 25mw, so the opportunities to cause interference are quite limited.

 

I’m into drones “a bit”.  😊  I’m president of the local drone racing club, FPV Racing Seattle, that puts on the races at Big Rock Sports Field and other locations.  If anyone has questions about racing drones, I’m happy to help answer those.  Don’t know much about the aerial camera platforms (e.g., DJI), though.

 

Mark

K7MLK

 

From: KE7GFZ@... [mailto:KE7GFZ@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:08 PM
To: KE7GFZ@...
Subject: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Re: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Allocated frequency use?

 

 

I'll brain dump what I know, but in short, as with all amateur transmissions, all of your transmission must be within the band allocation that you are legally allowed to use.  (From memory, harmonics outside the band must be ~-72dBm down from the in-band transmission).

 

Super happy to see other droney's here.  I just joined the FPV Racing Seattle Facebook group and will be keeping an eye on MultiGP events in our area.  Jeremiah (WB7ELX) is the only SnoVARC member with the race bug, to my knowledge, but I'd be happy if I were wrong.  I'm working on the aerial photography platform side of the hobby, photogrammetry, and mapping.

 

I'll give a plug for the Saturday May 27th, June 24th, July 22nd, and August 13th club races at the Big Rock Sports Field - thanks for doing them locally!  Others would probably enjoy watching them.

 

Parts of 5cm in the US are shared between ISM (primary use) and Amateur.  In ITU region 2, the amateur radio band is between 5.650 MHz and 5.925 MHz.  ALL of your transmission must be within that band.  

 

U-NII-4, if adopted (currently being considered), would allow Part 15 unlicensed up in this area, but we're currently secondary only to DSRC (Dedicated Short Range Communications) Service - usually emergency vehicles and DOT kinda stuff in our area.

 

Part 97 (97.303, if you're super curious) only has a couple clauses about this allocation and both relate to our secondary use of this spectrum:

 

(d) Amateur stations transmitting in the 430–450 MHz segment, the 23 cm band, the 3.3–3.4 GHz segment, the 5.65–5.85 GHz segment, the 13 cm band, or the 24.05–24.25 GHz segment, must not cause harmful interference to, and must accept interference from, stations authorized by other nations in the radiolocation service.

 

(r) In the 5 cm band:

 

(1) Amateur stations transmitting in the 5.650–5.725 GHz segment must not cause harmful interference to, and must accept interference from, stations authorized by other nations in the mobile except aeronautical mobile service.

 

(2) Amateur stations transmitting in the 5.850–5.925 GHz segment must not cause harmful interference to, and must accept interference from, stations authorized by the FCC and other nations in the fixed-satellite (Earth-to-space) and mobile services and also stations authorized by other nations in the fixed service. In the United States, the use of mobile service is restricted to Dedicated Short Range Communications operating in the Intelligent Transportation System.

 

73, K7ADD

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Mark Kenworthy mark@... [KE7GFZ] <KE7GFZ@...> wrote:

 

Drones are commonly using the 5cm band to broadcast video, and a question came up that I’m not sure of the answer to.  The legal 5cm band goes up to 5.925 GHz.  Does this mean it is legal to broadcast on 5.925 GHz, or does the broadcast need to be centered far enough below 5.925 GHz that the bandwidth of the signal does not extend beyond 5.925 GHz?

 

I tried looking this up, and couldn’t find a statute, so if there is a definitive statute, I’d be very interested in a pointer to what applies to this question.


Thanks,


Mark

 

 


Re: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Re: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Allocated frequency use?

Mark Kenworthy
 

Okay, I can see where what you suggest makes sense, but I would expect that to be codified somewhere, but I can’t find anything beyond what you copied below, which isn’t very definitive on what is allowed and not allowed.  One way it could be read is that if we’re transmitting on 5.925 GHz and not causing any interference with other licensed use, we’re fine.  So, I’d like to find actual code on what is legal vs not.  We currently transmit at 25mw, so the opportunities to cause interference are quite limited.

 

I’m into drones “a bit”.  😊  I’m president of the local drone racing club, FPV Racing Seattle, that puts on the races at Big Rock Sports Field and other locations.  If anyone has questions about racing drones, I’m happy to help answer those.  Don’t know much about the aerial camera platforms (e.g., DJI), though.

 

Mark

K7MLK

 

From: KE7GFZ@... [mailto:KE7GFZ@...]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:08 PM
To: KE7GFZ@...
Subject: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Re: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Allocated frequency use?

 

 

I'll brain dump what I know, but in short, as with all amateur transmissions, all of your transmission must be within the band allocation that you are legally allowed to use.  (From memory, harmonics outside the band must be ~-72dBm down from the in-band transmission).

 

Super happy to see other droney's here.  I just joined the FPV Racing Seattle Facebook group and will be keeping an eye on MultiGP events in our area.  Jeremiah (WB7ELX) is the only SnoVARC member with the race bug, to my knowledge, but I'd be happy if I were wrong.  I'm working on the aerial photography platform side of the hobby, photogrammetry, and mapping.

 

I'll give a plug for the Saturday May 27th, June 24th, July 22nd, and August 13th club races at the Big Rock Sports Field - thanks for doing them locally!  Others would probably enjoy watching them.

 

Parts of 5cm in the US are shared between ISM (primary use) and Amateur.  In ITU region 2, the amateur radio band is between 5.650 MHz and 5.925 MHz.  ALL of your transmission must be within that band.  

 

U-NII-4, if adopted (currently being considered), would allow Part 15 unlicensed up in this area, but we're currently secondary only to DSRC (Dedicated Short Range Communications) Service - usually emergency vehicles and DOT kinda stuff in our area.

 

Part 97 (97.303, if you're super curious) only has a couple clauses about this allocation and both relate to our secondary use of this spectrum:

 

(d) Amateur stations transmitting in the 430–450 MHz segment, the 23 cm band, the 3.3–3.4 GHz segment, the 5.65–5.85 GHz segment, the 13 cm band, or the 24.05–24.25 GHz segment, must not cause harmful interference to, and must accept interference from, stations authorized by other nations in the radiolocation service.

 

(r) In the 5 cm band:

 

(1) Amateur stations transmitting in the 5.650–5.725 GHz segment must not cause harmful interference to, and must accept interference from, stations authorized by other nations in the mobile except aeronautical mobile service.

 

(2) Amateur stations transmitting in the 5.850–5.925 GHz segment must not cause harmful interference to, and must accept interference from, stations authorized by the FCC and other nations in the fixed-satellite (Earth-to-space) and mobile services and also stations authorized by other nations in the fixed service. In the United States, the use of mobile service is restricted to Dedicated Short Range Communications operating in the Intelligent Transportation System.

 

73, K7ADD

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Mark Kenworthy mark@... [KE7GFZ] <KE7GFZ@...> wrote:

 

Drones are commonly using the 5cm band to broadcast video, and a question came up that I’m not sure of the answer to.  The legal 5cm band goes up to 5.925 GHz.  Does this mean it is legal to broadcast on 5.925 GHz, or does the broadcast need to be centered far enough below 5.925 GHz that the bandwidth of the signal does not extend beyond 5.925 GHz?

 

I tried looking this up, and couldn’t find a statute, so if there is a definitive statute, I’d be very interested in a pointer to what applies to this question.


Thanks,


Mark

 

 

Re: KE7GFZ · Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Allocated frequency use?

Bengt-Erik Norum
 

I'll brain dump what I know, but in short, as with all amateur transmissions, all of your transmission must be within the band allocation that you are legally allowed to use.  (From memory, harmonics outside the band must be ~-72dBm down from the in-band transmission).

Super happy to see other droney's here.  I just joined the FPV Racing Seattle Facebook group and will be keeping an eye on MultiGP events in our area.  Jeremiah (WB7ELX) is the only SnoVARC member with the race bug, to my knowledge, but I'd be happy if I were wrong.  I'm working on the aerial photography platform side of the hobby, photogrammetry, and mapping.

I'll give a plug for the Saturday May 27th, June 24th, July 22nd, and August 13th club races at the Big Rock Sports Field - thanks for doing them locally!  Others would probably enjoy watching them.

Parts of 5cm in the US are shared between ISM (primary use) and Amateur.  In ITU region 2, the amateur radio band is between 5.650 MHz and 5.925 MHz.  ALL of your transmission must be within that band.  

U-NII-4, if adopted (currently being considered), would allow Part 15 unlicensed up in this area, but we're currently secondary only to DSRC (Dedicated Short Range Communications) Service - usually emergency vehicles and DOT kinda stuff in our area.

Part 97 (97.303, if you're super curious) only has a couple clauses about this allocation and both relate to our secondary use of this spectrum:

(d) Amateur stations transmitting in the 430–450 MHz segment, the 23 cm band, the 3.3–3.4 GHz segment, the 5.65–5.85 GHz segment, the 13 cm band, or the 24.05–24.25 GHz segment, must not cause harmful interference to, and must accept interference from, stations authorized by other nations in the radiolocation service.

(r) In the 5 cm band:

(1) Amateur stations transmitting in the 5.650–5.725 GHz segment must not cause harmful interference to, and must accept interference from, stations authorized by other nations in the mobile except aeronautical mobile service.

(2) Amateur stations transmitting in the 5.850–5.925 GHz segment must not cause harmful interference to, and must accept interference from, stations authorized by the FCC and other nations in the fixed-satellite (Earth-to-space) and mobile services and also stations authorized by other nations in the fixed service. In the United States, the use of mobile service is restricted to Dedicated Short Range Communications operating in the Intelligent Transportation System.

73, K7ADD

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Mark Kenworthy mark@... [KE7GFZ] <KE7GFZ@...> wrote:
 

Drones are commonly using the 5cm band to broadcast video, and a question came up that I’m not sure of the answer to.  The legal 5cm band goes up to 5.925 GHz.  Does this mean it is legal to broadcast on 5.925 GHz, or does the broadcast need to be centered far enough below 5.925 GHz that the bandwidth of the signal does not extend beyond 5.925 GHz?

 

I tried looking this up, and couldn’t find a statute, so if there is a definitive statute, I’d be very interested in a pointer to what applies to this question.


Thanks,


Mark

 


Allocated frequency use?

Mark Kenworthy
 

Drones are commonly using the 5cm band to broadcast video, and a question came up that I’m not sure of the answer to.  The legal 5cm band goes up to 5.925 GHz.  Does this mean it is legal to broadcast on 5.925 GHz, or does the broadcast need to be centered far enough below 5.925 GHz that the bandwidth of the signal does not extend beyond 5.925 GHz?

 

I tried looking this up, and couldn’t find a statute, so if there is a definitive statute, I’d be very interested in a pointer to what applies to this question.


Thanks,


Mark

 

Still Need a Net Control!

Irvina Mizell
 

It would be extremely difficult to uphold our end of the Duvall Days REF Run without a Net Control person.  Who is able to do that?  Please step forward.


Thanks to everyone who has volunteered to assist at this event.  I will send out an email next week with details for those who volunteered.


Irvina

KC7YJK

Re: KE7GFZ � Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Re: Successful VE Session, 9 new hams [1 Attachment]

Irvina Mizell
 

Can I invite the new hams to the Duvall REF Run?  If so, I need their contact information.  This could be a great way to get them on the radio soon.


Thanks.


Irvina





From: KE7GFZ@... <KE7GFZ@...> on behalf of Robin A robininwashington@... [KE7GFZ] <KE7GFZ@...>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 7:29 AM
To: KE7GFZ@...
Subject: KE7GFZ � Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Re: Successful VE Session, 9 new hams [1 Attachment]
 
 
[Attachment(s) from Robin A included below]

Congratulations to the new hams!

I like your suggestions, Dan. In April I wrote a document for on-boarding new members to the club and shared it but there does not seem to be a process for discussing/approving/implementing. My document does not address helping newly licensed hams from the class but it could be a platform to add your suggestions and see if the club wants to formally adopt and then follow through. I have attached the document. I hope this helps.

Re: Successful VE Session, 9 new hams

Robin WA7CPA
 

Congratulations to the new hams!

I like your suggestions, Dan. In April I wrote a document for on-boarding new members to the club and shared it but there does not seem to be a process for discussing/approving/implementing. My document does not address helping newly licensed hams from the class but it could be a platform to add your suggestions and see if the club wants to formally adopt and then follow through. I have attached the document. I hope this helps.

Successful VE Session, 9 new hams

Dan Pflugrath
 

The last time we tried to hold meetings to help new hams it was not very success in my opinion.  How about a trying different approach.

1.    Assign our club members to give each new ham a phone call or contact them by email.  Make sure they have a radio, that it is programmed for the repeater and they know how the PTT button works.  Make sure their radio can access the repeater.

2. Hold a weekly informal round table net with a net control on the repeater that is totally dedicated to answering questions from the new hams.  Tuesday or Wednesday evenings may work and not interfere with existing scheduled nets.

3. For hams that don't check into either the round table or the SNOVARC Thursday night nets, give them a follow up call or email once or twice to make sure they have the opportunity to use their radio during the nets or the CDCCC drills.

Goals; 1. Low pressure opportunity for new hams to get used to talking on their radio with correct protocal and get their questions answered, 2. Lower impact to club members that assist new hams.

Are there hams from our previous VE sessions that could use the same help especially those that are CERTS that may participate in up coming drills.

This is only a suggestion.  Any other suggestions out there?

Dan KA7GPP
dpflugrath@...
425-941-2339







Re: KE7GFZ ท Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) Re: KE7GFZ ? Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) what time is the exam session tomorrow?

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

Tnx!

-p KG7STV
73, don’t forget to smile and have fun



On May 19, 2017, at 7:55 PM, 'J. Myers' jem5e@... [KE7GFZ] <KE7GFZ@...> wrote:

Hi Paul,

The exam is right after the end of the Technician Class.  Expect that to be 1500 on Saturday the 20th.  Good idea to be there a bit early.

Location is at the Downtown Duvall Fire Station in the conference room.

The cost is $15.00 for the exam.

Please bring a copy of your current FCC License and your FCC FRN Number.

Supplies needed:  Ballpoint pen for filling out forms and No. 2 Pencil for the exam answer sheet.

Look forward to seeing you there.  Good Luck on the test!

Jim
W7ABD


On 05/19/17 18:15, Paul Butzi kg7stv@... [KE7GFZ] wrote:
 

I was hoping to take the Extra exam tomorrow.  What’s the time and location?  And what are the costs?


Thanks!


-p KG7STV
73, don’t forget to smile and have fun






Re: KE7GFZ ? Snoqualmie Valley Amateur Radio Club (SnoVARC) what time is the exam session tomorrow?

Jim KI7ELP
 

Hi Paul,

The exam is right after the end of the Technician Class.  Expect that to be 1500 on Saturday the 20th.  Good idea to be there a bit early.

Location is at the Downtown Duvall Fire Station in the conference room.

The cost is $15.00 for the exam.

Please bring a copy of your current FCC License and your FCC FRN Number.

Supplies needed:  Ballpoint pen for filling out forms and No. 2 Pencil for the exam answer sheet.

Look forward to seeing you there.  Good Luck on the test!

Jim
W7ABD


On 05/19/17 18:15, Paul Butzi kg7stv@... [KE7GFZ] wrote:
 

I was hoping to take the Extra exam tomorrow.  What’s the time and location?  And what are the costs?


Thanks!


-p KG7STV
73, don’t forget to smile and have fun




what time is the exam session tomorrow?

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

I was hoping to take the Extra exam tomorrow.  What’s the time and location?  And what are the costs?

Thanks!


-p KG7STV
73, don’t forget to smile and have fun



SnoVARC weekly Net on Club Repeaters, Thursday, 18 May 2017

KE7GFZ@...
 

"SnoVARC weekly Net on Club Repeaters" reminder
When
Thursday, 18 May 2017
08:00 PM to 08:30 PM
(GMT) Monrovia / Reykjavik
Notes
Net meets on the Club Repeater. 441.825 + shift w/tone 103.5 If the 441 repeater fails then go to one of the following repeaters: Duvall: 443.250 + shift w/tone 103.5 Carnation: 145.590 no shift w/ tone 103.5 If Repeater(s) fail then we go to 145.590 simplex. Be sure and check the Net Controllers list as it might be your turn to run the Net! Note: There will be no Net on the first Thursday of the month as that is meeting night.
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Need Net Control and a Few More Volunteers for REF Run

Irvina Mizell
 

Hi all,


Who wants to volunteer to be the Net Control for the REF Run?  Let me know please.


Sunday, June 4th.  Beginning at 7:45am.


Also, we could use a few more volunteers to cover the stations.  If I haven't contacted you directly yet, please reach out to me.


Thanks!


Irvina

KC7YJK

irvina.mizell@...


SnoVARC weekly Net on Club Repeaters, Thursday, 18 May 2017

KE7GFZ@...
 

"SnoVARC weekly Net on Club Repeaters" reminder
When
Thursday, 18 May 2017
08:00 PM to 08:30 PM
(GMT) Monrovia / Reykjavik
Notes
Net meets on the Club Repeater. 441.825 + shift w/tone 103.5 If the 441 repeater fails then go to one of the following repeaters: Duvall: 443.250 + shift w/tone 103.5 Carnation: 145.590 no shift w/ tone 103.5 If Repeater(s) fail then we go to 145.590 simplex. Be sure and check the Net Controllers list as it might be your turn to run the Net! Note: There will be no Net on the first Thursday of the month as that is meeting night.
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SnoVARC weekly Net on Club Repeaters, Thursday, 11 May 2017

KE7GFZ@...
 

"SnoVARC weekly Net on Club Repeaters" reminder
When
Thursday, 11 May 2017
08:00 PM to 08:30 PM
(GMT) Monrovia / Reykjavik
Notes
Net meets on the Club Repeater. 441.825 + shift w/tone 103.5 If the 441 repeater fails then go to one of the following repeaters: Duvall: 443.250 + shift w/tone 103.5 Carnation: 145.590 no shift w/ tone 103.5 If Repeater(s) fail then we go to 145.590 simplex. Be sure and check the Net Controllers list as it might be your turn to run the Net! Note: There will be no Net on the first Thursday of the month as that is meeting night.
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