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Follow up from the 8-20-20 SNOVARC mini exercise


Tom WA7TBP
 

Hello all. Please see the attached sheets from the mini exercise. 

Thanks all of you for a great exercise
 
Tom, WA7TBP


Paul Zoba
 

Hi Tom,
I don’t own a PO Box and have my home address on file with the FCC. My physical QTH is a bit east of Cottage Lake.
22209 NE 156th Place
Woodinville, 98077

Thanks, Paul, W7PEZ


On Aug 21, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Tom WA7TBP via groups.io <tomwa7tbp@...> wrote:


Hello all. Please see the attached sheets from the mini exercise. 

Thanks all of you for a great exercise
 
Tom, WA7TBP
<8-20-20 Exercise comments.docx>
<8-20-20 Mini exercise data sheetwith data.xlsx>


Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

He the two of us confused, my address on file with the FCC is my PO box.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 22, 2020, at 7:36 AM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...> wrote:

Hi Tom,
I don’t own a PO Box and have my home address on file with the FCC. My physical QTH is a bit east of Cottage Lake.
22209 NE 156th Place
Woodinville, 98077

Thanks, Paul, W7PEZ


On Aug 21, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Tom WA7TBP via groups.io <tomwa7tbp@...> wrote:


Hello all. Please see the attached sheets from the mini exercise. 

Thanks all of you for a great exercise
 
Tom, WA7TBP
<8-20-20 Exercise comments.docx>
<8-20-20 Mini exercise data sheetwith data.xlsx>


Bob Otis
 

My mistake, Paul (W7PFB) has the P.O. Box.  Paul (W7PEZ) is on the map.

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 7:42 AM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Follow up from the 8-20-20 SNOVARC mini exercise

 

He the two of us confused, my address on file with the FCC is my PO box.

 

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



On Aug 22, 2020, at 7:36 AM, Paul Zoba <pezoba@...> wrote:

 

Hi Tom,

I don’t own a PO Box and have my home address on file with the FCC. My physical QTH is a bit east of Cottage Lake.

22209 NE 156th Place

Woodinville, 98077

 

Thanks, Paul, W7PEZ


On Aug 21, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Tom WA7TBP via groups.io <tomwa7tbp@...> wrote:



Hello all. Please see the attached sheets from the mini exercise. 

Thanks all of you for a great exercise

 

Tom, WA7TBP

<8-20-20 Exercise comments.docx>

<8-20-20 Mini exercise data sheetwith data.xlsx>

 


Bob Otis
 

Following up on Paul’s (W7PEZ) location error, attached is a new map with his correct one.  Not hearing any other comments, I believe everyone else is located correctly.

 

Thanks again to Tom (WA7TBP) and all who participated,

Bob, KI7RMO

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom WA7TBP via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 7:31 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io; rmot47@...
Subject: [SnoVARC] Follow up from the 8-20-20 SNOVARC mini exercise

 

Hello all. Please see the attached sheets from the mini exercise. 

Thanks all of you for a great exercise

 

Tom, WA7TBP


Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

Ah, shoot I meant to send you my address and forgot.

8035 Tolt Highland Road NE, Carnation 98014

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 22, 2020, at 4:07 PM, Bob Otis <rmot47@...> wrote:

Following up on Paul’s (W7PEZ) location error, attached is a new map with his correct one.  Not hearing any other comments, I believe everyone else is located correctly.
 
Thanks again to Tom (WA7TBP) and all who participated,
Bob, KI7RMO
 
From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom WA7TBP via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 7:31 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io; rmot47@...
Subject: [SnoVARC] Follow up from the 8-20-20 SNOVARC mini exercise
 

Hello all. Please see the attached sheets from the mini exercise. 

Thanks all of you for a great exercise
 
Tom, WA7TBP

<SnoVARC Exercise - 2020-08-20.PNG>


Robin Amundson
 

I just saw this. My location is incorrect. I am further east by Paradise Lake Road.


On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 4:08 PM Bob Otis <rmot47@...> wrote:

Following up on Paul’s (W7PEZ) location error, attached is a new map with his correct one.  Not hearing any other comments, I believe everyone else is located correctly.

 

Thanks again to Tom (WA7TBP) and all who participated,

Bob, KI7RMO

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom WA7TBP via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 7:31 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io; rmot47@...
Subject: [SnoVARC] Follow up from the 8-20-20 SNOVARC mini exercise

 

Hello all. Please see the attached sheets from the mini exercise. 

Thanks all of you for a great exercise

 

Tom, WA7TBP


Rowland
 

I do not see Paul Butzi on the map.


Thanks,

Rowland



On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 4:08 PM Bob Otis <rmot47@...> wrote:

Following up on Paul’s (W7PEZ) location error, attached is a new map with his correct one.  Not hearing any other comments, I believe everyone else is located correctly.

 

Thanks again to Tom (WA7TBP) and all who participated,

Bob, KI7RMO

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom WA7TBP via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 7:31 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io; rmot47@...
Subject: [SnoVARC] Follow up from the 8-20-20 SNOVARC mini exercise

 

Hello all. Please see the attached sheets from the mini exercise. 

Thanks all of you for a great exercise

 

Tom, WA7TBP


Bob Otis
 

I believe I now have everyone.  PaulB, PaulZ and Robin were updated for location and elevation, so it should be OK.  If not, just let me know.

 

73, Bob

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rowland
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 5:23 PM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Follow up from the 8-20-20 SNOVARC mini exercise

 

I do not see Paul Butzi on the map.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Rowland

 

 

 

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 4:08 PM Bob Otis <rmot47@...> wrote:

Following up on Paul’s (W7PEZ) location error, attached is a new map with his correct one.  Not hearing any other comments, I believe everyone else is located correctly.

 

Thanks again to Tom (WA7TBP) and all who participated,

Bob, KI7RMO

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom WA7TBP via groups.io
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 7:31 PM
To: snovarc@groups.io; rmot47@...
Subject: [SnoVARC] Follow up from the 8-20-20 SNOVARC mini exercise

 

Hello all. Please see the attached sheets from the mini exercise. 

Thanks all of you for a great exercise

 

Tom, WA7TBP


Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM
 

So why could I barely hear Tom during our 2m exercise?
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Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
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Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

Line of sight is a little more complicated than just a line between two points

Note that lens shaped ellipse drawn with the ‘line’, hat’s the Fresnel zone.  Basically you’d really like that entire zone to be clear, and more than half of it is occluded in your case.  On top of that the line is drawn assuming antenna height of 12 meters at each end, and that’s probably not right.  Note that the size of the Fresnel zone varies with wavelength.

Beyond that lots of things can affect signals.  Buildings, trees (especially trees with wet foliage), you name it.  

That said I bet if you put your antenna up another 60 feet things would improve.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 25, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

So why could I barely hear Tom during our 2m exercise? <Screen Shot 2020-08-25 at 9.49.51 AM.png>
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Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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Mark McClain
 

Howard,

 

How well was Tom hearing you?  Consider the power each of you were running at the time.  Also, do you know how well your antenna is/was performing?  Feedline, SWR, antenna type (assume it was a vertical, with some gain maybe)- these can all affect performance and this type of test is a good one to repeat and sort out potential issues that you might not detect when using repeaters.

 

Mark

 

 

From: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io <snovarc@snovarc.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 9:53 AM
To: snovarc@snovarc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [SnoVARC] Follow up from the 8-20-20 SNOVARC mini exercise

 

So why could I barely hear Tom during our 2m exercise?
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Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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Paul Zoba
 

This doesn’t look bad at all... something else?


On Aug 25, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Howard E. Mahran / WA1HEM <wa1hem@...> wrote:

So why could I barely hear Tom during our 2m exercise?
<Screen Shot 2020-08-25 at 9.49.51 AM.png>

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Howard E. Mahran
WA1HEM
(425) 864 - 5104
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